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Cat kidney failure - stinky case
I have a black cat around 7 years old. Greek vet diagnosed him with kidney failure and said not much he can do for him. He is wasting away - even tho he has a foracious appentite and his excrement is a mix of stiff studd and liquid - very dark- and it stinks like a pig farm and he does it everywhere. Problem started suddenly (poisen attempt??) - he went from a healthy happy cat to a sick one almost overnight - that's when we got the diagnosis - but that was nearly a year ago and all treatments have failed. We don't want to have him put down - help - is there any homeopathic cure?thanks!
Lena
lena2006 on 2008-09-25
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Hi Lena, sorry, that's very young for a cat.
There is usually a distinction between acute and chronic kidney failure. To be so sudden, this sounds like acute. I'm more familiar with chronic which doesn't show up until most kidney function is gone. AT that point, you have permanent pathological damage, and not much homeopathy can do.
If acute, I believe it is mostly a matter of supportive care until the toxins are gone and the kidneys kick in again.
I strongly recommend the following two sites - Yahoo has an excellent forum where you will get very knowledgeable feedback about what you can do. It is primarily for chronic failure, but there are many similarities -
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/
and just about anything you would want to know about dealing with CRF in a kitty can be found here -
http://www.felinecrf.org/
Daisy
There is usually a distinction between acute and chronic kidney failure. To be so sudden, this sounds like acute. I'm more familiar with chronic which doesn't show up until most kidney function is gone. AT that point, you have permanent pathological damage, and not much homeopathy can do.
If acute, I believe it is mostly a matter of supportive care until the toxins are gone and the kidneys kick in again.
I strongly recommend the following two sites - Yahoo has an excellent forum where you will get very knowledgeable feedback about what you can do. It is primarily for chronic failure, but there are many similarities -
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/
and just about anything you would want to know about dealing with CRF in a kitty can be found here -
http://www.felinecrf.org/
Daisy
Daisy43 last decade
Sorry, I see you said it happened suddenly but a year ago. Do please check out both of those sites. My cat has CRF and is doing very well.
Daisy43 last decade
Many thanks Daisy - I looked at the feline site but couldnt see cures suggested. I wil try Yahoo but am hopeful someone can suggest a remedy on this forum. Thanks for your concern,
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lena2006 last decade
Lena, the problem is unless you fill out a case questionnaire providing a great deal more information about your cat than you already have, then you may not get any suggestions for remedies.
The sites I mentioned may be able to help you to stabilize him. It is a good sign that his appetite is still so good. Without knowing what diagnostics your vet did and what treatments you think failed, I don't know that you have exhausted some fairly straightforward care for him.
Homeopathy is not going to repair destroyed kidney tissue. A very basic remedy you could try is making up a 3X or 4X potentized solution of his own urine and adding that to his waterbowl on a regular basis. But it won't be enough.
The sites I mentioned may be able to help you to stabilize him. It is a good sign that his appetite is still so good. Without knowing what diagnostics your vet did and what treatments you think failed, I don't know that you have exhausted some fairly straightforward care for him.
Homeopathy is not going to repair destroyed kidney tissue. A very basic remedy you could try is making up a 3X or 4X potentized solution of his own urine and adding that to his waterbowl on a regular basis. But it won't be enough.
Daisy43 last decade
Hi Lena
You may try Ars. alb for your pet. Initially use 6c for a few days and if you see some improvement wait till it ceases and move on to 30c.
You may try Ars. alb for your pet. Initially use 6c for a few days and if you see some improvement wait till it ceases and move on to 30c.
♡ maheeru last decade
Many thanks Maheeru and Daisy
Maheeru
I only had ars. alb 30c in the house so have tried him with that. Will keep you posted on progress! thnaks so much!
Daisy - where do i fill out one of these case histories to fil out and who will look at it?
The thing is we have 20 strays we look after in the house and another 20 in the forest. Greece has a big problem with strays and vet care is poor and expensive. There are some charities but mainly just a few bsicuits and sterisation progrmmes. WE try to keep numbers down but alot of people dump kittens in the forest. The vet said he did tests and that its its kidney failure. Im not sue what treatement he did - but he is not a very helpful vet. I found out about Kaminox medicine and this helped a bit, but then it reverted again. He is getting thinner every day even though he eats masses and is almost always hungry. If he doesn't have his medicine he drips everywhere so we can't even let him in the house some of the time as we have our hands full with the others. Even the neighbours noticed the smell. He shows no other signs of illness but he has trouble cleaning his rear end so he smells and his poo itself always is very dark and rotten smeliing. Yuk! Poor thing though its not his fault...
Maheeru
I only had ars. alb 30c in the house so have tried him with that. Will keep you posted on progress! thnaks so much!
Daisy - where do i fill out one of these case histories to fil out and who will look at it?
The thing is we have 20 strays we look after in the house and another 20 in the forest. Greece has a big problem with strays and vet care is poor and expensive. There are some charities but mainly just a few bsicuits and sterisation progrmmes. WE try to keep numbers down but alot of people dump kittens in the forest. The vet said he did tests and that its its kidney failure. Im not sue what treatement he did - but he is not a very helpful vet. I found out about Kaminox medicine and this helped a bit, but then it reverted again. He is getting thinner every day even though he eats masses and is almost always hungry. If he doesn't have his medicine he drips everywhere so we can't even let him in the house some of the time as we have our hands full with the others. Even the neighbours noticed the smell. He shows no other signs of illness but he has trouble cleaning his rear end so he smells and his poo itself always is very dark and rotten smeliing. Yuk! Poor thing though its not his fault...
lena2006 last decade
Maheeru,
The ars.alb is having a positive effect so far! He is defintely less smelly today (he usually stinks like a pig farm!) and he is not in such a panic - he warbled for his food instead of screaming for it like he ususally does. I noticed he still has a terrible strain to go to the toilet tho - but he is noticeably bettee and his eyes are brighter. I think the acute kdney problem may have been caused by a poisen attempt from nasty people who don't like cats (some others died last year of poisoning around the time he started having these problems).
He is still very agile btw.
How often should I give him the 30 I have got him on (sorry I didnt have 6 as per my last email)?
Thanks so much - hope he continues to improve - its only 1 day so too early to judge.
Lena
The ars.alb is having a positive effect so far! He is defintely less smelly today (he usually stinks like a pig farm!) and he is not in such a panic - he warbled for his food instead of screaming for it like he ususally does. I noticed he still has a terrible strain to go to the toilet tho - but he is noticeably bettee and his eyes are brighter. I think the acute kdney problem may have been caused by a poisen attempt from nasty people who don't like cats (some others died last year of poisoning around the time he started having these problems).
He is still very agile btw.
How often should I give him the 30 I have got him on (sorry I didnt have 6 as per my last email)?
Thanks so much - hope he continues to improve - its only 1 day so too early to judge.
Lena
lena2006 last decade
Hi Lena
That's good news. It's ok that you started with what you had and 30c was ok. You can give the remedy twice daily for a week. If things have improved substantially by then, remedy may not be required, but if there's a need-- you may continue 30c dosing in wet dose beyond the week till there's a cure or symptom profile changes substantially. If improvement gets stalled drainage remedies for poison/toxin elimination or upping the potency may be required.
That's good news. It's ok that you started with what you had and 30c was ok. You can give the remedy twice daily for a week. If things have improved substantially by then, remedy may not be required, but if there's a need-- you may continue 30c dosing in wet dose beyond the week till there's a cure or symptom profile changes substantially. If improvement gets stalled drainage remedies for poison/toxin elimination or upping the potency may be required.
♡ maheeru last decade
Dear Maheeru,
Thanks for your kind reply. Today he seems to have regressed a bit.I noticed when he tried to clean his rear end that it was all wet and coming out - he couldnt even bear to clean it. Could there also be a muscular problem that prevents him from sometimes retaining the excrement and other times not releasing it - depending on the consistency? Is there any additional cure for that? I have noticed it in the past - it's not a new symptom.
Best
Lena
Thanks for your kind reply. Today he seems to have regressed a bit.I noticed when he tried to clean his rear end that it was all wet and coming out - he couldnt even bear to clean it. Could there also be a muscular problem that prevents him from sometimes retaining the excrement and other times not releasing it - depending on the consistency? Is there any additional cure for that? I have noticed it in the past - it's not a new symptom.
Best
Lena
lena2006 last decade
Lena, that's great he's doing better. Since Maheeru seems to have a handle on it, filling out a questionnaire may not be necessary. (If you check some of the other threads here you may see what I mean.)
There is probably a lot you could do of a more conventional nature *if* you pester the vet for a copy of the test results. I think think it is worthwhile to get that information. For one thing, it is a baseline. With diagnostic results in hand, it isn't so important what your vet does for treatment or if he even knows she he is talking about. The information is on the internet.
Daisy
There is probably a lot you could do of a more conventional nature *if* you pester the vet for a copy of the test results. I think think it is worthwhile to get that information. For one thing, it is a baseline. With diagnostic results in hand, it isn't so important what your vet does for treatment or if he even knows she he is talking about. The information is on the internet.
Daisy
Daisy43 last decade
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