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Laryngeal Paralysis in Dogs
Has anyone treated their dog medically for this? Is there a remedy for dogs? Is there a site that has good information about dogs and homeopathy?Thanks!
chat_noir_13 on 2005-01-31
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Sorry-I've never heard of that (anyone?)
If you would like homeopathic advise you need to post symptoms. Maybe that questionnaire will help:
1. Onset--did the complaint come on suddenly or gradually?
2. Etiology--the cause. What happened? What was going on at, or about, the time of the occurrence?
3. Sensation--describe the pain or other feeling. Does it extend anywhere, does it shoot anywhere? For instance, "It feels like there's a crumb in my throat, I'm constantly trying to swallow. The pain shoots to my left ear."
4. Appearance--what does the person, or the part that's bothering the person, look like; anything remarkable? Red skin, droopy eyes, etc.?
5. Location--where on the body?
6. Modalities--what makes the complaint better or worse? Consider: heat or cold, bathing, warm rooms, fresh air, drafts, motion, time of day when person gets worse, what position is best/worse, stimuli--conversation, noise, light, touch, pressure, massage, music, company, consolation, etc.
7. Concomitants (additional symptoms that came with the main complaint)--for instance, pain with crying; pain with excessive salivation; pain with nausea--the things that have come along for the ride, fellow-travelers, in other words.
8. Discharges--color, odor, consistency. (A discharge is anything liquid that's coming out, oozing out, etc. So, for instance, runny nose, diarrhea, lacrimation and so on.)
9. Generals--these are all the "I" symptoms: I'm hot, I'm cold, I'm thirsty, I'm tired, I'm sad, I'm irritable, I'm hungry, I want pickles, etc.
10. The mentals: Have the mentals changed from normal, in what way? What's different mentally and emotionally?
11. What does the person say? For instance: "I'm fine, leave me alone." "Don't leave!" "I wanna go home!" "I want ice", etc.
12. Thirst--is the person thirsty, not thirsty, what temperature drinks, what kind of drinks, does he only want sips, or gulps, does he drink a little bit frequently or a lot infrequently, and so on.
13. Fever?
14. Sweating?
15. Odors? Are odors an issue, such as bad breath, foul odors of any sort?
16. What is most striking about the condition? What is most peculiar--for instance, person is cold but heat and covers aggravate; person has burning pains but is better for being covered and hot drinks like tea.
If you would like homeopathic advise you need to post symptoms. Maybe that questionnaire will help:
1. Onset--did the complaint come on suddenly or gradually?
2. Etiology--the cause. What happened? What was going on at, or about, the time of the occurrence?
3. Sensation--describe the pain or other feeling. Does it extend anywhere, does it shoot anywhere? For instance, "It feels like there's a crumb in my throat, I'm constantly trying to swallow. The pain shoots to my left ear."
4. Appearance--what does the person, or the part that's bothering the person, look like; anything remarkable? Red skin, droopy eyes, etc.?
5. Location--where on the body?
6. Modalities--what makes the complaint better or worse? Consider: heat or cold, bathing, warm rooms, fresh air, drafts, motion, time of day when person gets worse, what position is best/worse, stimuli--conversation, noise, light, touch, pressure, massage, music, company, consolation, etc.
7. Concomitants (additional symptoms that came with the main complaint)--for instance, pain with crying; pain with excessive salivation; pain with nausea--the things that have come along for the ride, fellow-travelers, in other words.
8. Discharges--color, odor, consistency. (A discharge is anything liquid that's coming out, oozing out, etc. So, for instance, runny nose, diarrhea, lacrimation and so on.)
9. Generals--these are all the "I" symptoms: I'm hot, I'm cold, I'm thirsty, I'm tired, I'm sad, I'm irritable, I'm hungry, I want pickles, etc.
10. The mentals: Have the mentals changed from normal, in what way? What's different mentally and emotionally?
11. What does the person say? For instance: "I'm fine, leave me alone." "Don't leave!" "I wanna go home!" "I want ice", etc.
12. Thirst--is the person thirsty, not thirsty, what temperature drinks, what kind of drinks, does he only want sips, or gulps, does he drink a little bit frequently or a lot infrequently, and so on.
13. Fever?
14. Sweating?
15. Odors? Are odors an issue, such as bad breath, foul odors of any sort?
16. What is most striking about the condition? What is most peculiar--for instance, person is cold but heat and covers aggravate; person has burning pains but is better for being covered and hot drinks like tea.
Astra2012 last decade
Remember she is a dog so I have to guess about how she feels. It has gradually gotten worse. The symptoms are constant panting with no exertion. They say that one side of her larynx is paralyzed so that the air has trouble getting through hence the panting to force the air in. The only thing that seems to make it better is a sedative, but then she is all groggy. When she first lies down at night she breathing sounds very labored but by morning the breathing is better until she stands then the panting starts again. She is not as interested in spending time away from me, not even in the yard. Her appetite or thirst has not changed. She will sometimes act like she is choking or trying to cough something up, mostly nothing comes up. She has stinky dog breath that might a little worse then before. She is 13 and weighs 65lbs so that means she is about 85 or so in human years.
Thanks for your help!
Thanks for your help!
chat_noir_13 last decade
do you mean it is constricted?
(I mean the paralyzed larynx). (and a sedative would relax it)So would sleep.
I know this questions are for people but just do your best-it will help.
Does she like an open air? lies down in warm or cold places? how did it start? etc.
(I mean the paralyzed larynx). (and a sedative would relax it)So would sleep.
I know this questions are for people but just do your best-it will help.
Does she like an open air? lies down in warm or cold places? how did it start? etc.
Astra2012 last decade
I haven't noticed any preference to open air or warm or cool preference- she likes to go for walks? It started about 2 years ago - not sure if it was triggered by anything specific - her partner died about the same time. She started spending more time in the house. She was also attacked by another dog around the same time. I am not sure if it is constricted. the only way is to put her under to check the larnyx - which i don't want to do because of her age. They said that a normal larynx opens and closes on both sides and usually what happens is one side just stays closed.
chat_noir_13 last decade
This is just my intuition, Astra what do you think?
Ignatia? Condition occurred around the same time the other dog died. Ignatia is good for the feeling of the lump in the throat, grief, loss of a loved one.
Bless,
NAMASTE
Ignatia? Condition occurred around the same time the other dog died. Ignatia is good for the feeling of the lump in the throat, grief, loss of a loved one.
Bless,
NAMASTE
Namaste27 last decade
When there is an animal in the topic I can always count that you'll be here!
Great-I also thought of ignatia (ailments from grief, and it is #2 in Kent for difficult breathing)
but
I also thought about CUPRUM which has difficult breatning after the fright (poor dog was attacked)--
Since there is no way to be sure about the cause I'd give her Ignatia 30 one dose (she is not allergic or sensitive-is she? If she is-lower the potency to 12c)-wait and watch for few days
if there are no changes give her cuprum 30c one dose.
If there is any reaction-post, do not give anything.
Bear in mind that often the first reaction is aggravation.
But it should never be long lasting or life-threatening.
Great-I also thought of ignatia (ailments from grief, and it is #2 in Kent for difficult breathing)
but
I also thought about CUPRUM which has difficult breatning after the fright (poor dog was attacked)--
Since there is no way to be sure about the cause I'd give her Ignatia 30 one dose (she is not allergic or sensitive-is she? If she is-lower the potency to 12c)-wait and watch for few days
if there are no changes give her cuprum 30c one dose.
If there is any reaction-post, do not give anything.
Bear in mind that often the first reaction is aggravation.
But it should never be long lasting or life-threatening.
Astra2012 last decade
Dogs are no different to people and the remedy that springs to mind is one that I have used for actors etc Aurum Tryp.
Once known as the remedy for clegymans sore throat - due to too much talking - or sermonising
Once known as the remedy for clegymans sore throat - due to too much talking - or sermonising
passkey last decade
Do you think she talked too much?
Animals are MUCH smarter than most people! They do not have this ego thing to care about.
Animals are MUCH smarter than most people! They do not have this ego thing to care about.
Astra2012 last decade
Hi,
My Border Collie dog is having respiratory problems. She went into repiratory failure a month ago and went to the best vets possible- but after spending several thousand, we were told that she is too healthy for the conditions that would have brought about this episode.
More in depth details:
1- age 5
2- whole female
3- had an allergic reaction to daisys about 3 years ago. This made her eyes swell (looking like a bubble fish) this went away once identified.
4- she has a high pitched bark
5- she is prone to gaining weight. only effective exercise to combat this- swimming
6- episode happened on a rainy day in the bushy areas of Perth.
7- after 40 minutes of relative easy - moderate walking, she started rasping.
8- by the time we got back to the car, she had very thready breathing
9- got to vets about an hour later
10- vet administered steroids and anti-histimine.
11- had no affect, administered oxygen, then went to after hours hospital.
12- cardiac arrest upon arrival.
13- she was saved and put on oxygen for two days
14- had every imaginable test. echocardiogram, blood tests, oxygen levels from artery, x-rays, camera down the throat
15- sent home with an inhaler
16- no test revealed anything
17- laryngeal paralysis was looked at as the fore-runner, but her larynx was within normal limits, but was at the lower end.
18- still breathing with a raspy sound after exercise
19- occassional cough, dry non-productive
20- oh & she seemed to have nasal discharge before this episode, which stained her nose at the sides, this was pointed out, but none of the vets seemed interested.
21- diet- organic, cooked & raw foods, incl veges, fruits, chicken, beef & fish, pasta (though not much)
After this harrowing experience, I am hoping that someone out there may be able to help- PLEASE!!!!
Thanks, Shelley
My Border Collie dog is having respiratory problems. She went into repiratory failure a month ago and went to the best vets possible- but after spending several thousand, we were told that she is too healthy for the conditions that would have brought about this episode.
More in depth details:
1- age 5
2- whole female
3- had an allergic reaction to daisys about 3 years ago. This made her eyes swell (looking like a bubble fish) this went away once identified.
4- she has a high pitched bark
5- she is prone to gaining weight. only effective exercise to combat this- swimming
6- episode happened on a rainy day in the bushy areas of Perth.
7- after 40 minutes of relative easy - moderate walking, she started rasping.
8- by the time we got back to the car, she had very thready breathing
9- got to vets about an hour later
10- vet administered steroids and anti-histimine.
11- had no affect, administered oxygen, then went to after hours hospital.
12- cardiac arrest upon arrival.
13- she was saved and put on oxygen for two days
14- had every imaginable test. echocardiogram, blood tests, oxygen levels from artery, x-rays, camera down the throat
15- sent home with an inhaler
16- no test revealed anything
17- laryngeal paralysis was looked at as the fore-runner, but her larynx was within normal limits, but was at the lower end.
18- still breathing with a raspy sound after exercise
19- occassional cough, dry non-productive
20- oh & she seemed to have nasal discharge before this episode, which stained her nose at the sides, this was pointed out, but none of the vets seemed interested.
21- diet- organic, cooked & raw foods, incl veges, fruits, chicken, beef & fish, pasta (though not much)
After this harrowing experience, I am hoping that someone out there may be able to help- PLEASE!!!!
Thanks, Shelley
ShelleyH last decade
There is no homeopathic cure for LP because it is caused by nerve damage that only gets worse as time goes on. I am an advocate for all things natural but with this disease it seems surgery is the only option for alieviating the symptoms and quality of life. There is an article that is very informative but I cannot post it on here because apparently I'm not allowed yet? I'm not allowed to post email address' either but Please email me at Blooms By Design at aol dot com and I will send it to you.
I have a dog with LP and I had considered using something for horses called resperator that is totally natural and produced by NAF. I contacted them for dosage instructions for my dog and they were very helpful but I haven't had a chance to get to use it because my dog has got worse quite quickly so we are now opting for surgery.
LP could be an option with the onset of the syptoms as described in the other message or the dog could have had an alergic reaction to some chemical or pollen in the surrounding area. There is also such a thing as nose mites, found mainly in Scandinavian countries such as Sweden and Denmark. The vets in the UK have never heard of it but it is treated with spot on flea treatment much like you treat ticks. This causes much like a backward sneezing where the dog sort of snorts out and in again through their noses.
Hope this is of some help to someone?
I have a dog with LP and I had considered using something for horses called resperator that is totally natural and produced by NAF. I contacted them for dosage instructions for my dog and they were very helpful but I haven't had a chance to get to use it because my dog has got worse quite quickly so we are now opting for surgery.
LP could be an option with the onset of the syptoms as described in the other message or the dog could have had an alergic reaction to some chemical or pollen in the surrounding area. There is also such a thing as nose mites, found mainly in Scandinavian countries such as Sweden and Denmark. The vets in the UK have never heard of it but it is treated with spot on flea treatment much like you treat ticks. This causes much like a backward sneezing where the dog sort of snorts out and in again through their noses.
Hope this is of some help to someone?
Tryfan last decade
You are correct re the surgery option. I am also for all things natural but when there's a physical barrier in the way (paralysed) there's only one way to get past it. There is a really great yahoo forum where the people on there have a wealth of experience of this disease and are more than willing to offer and share advice and experiences. If anyone wants the link please email me directly.
Kalaztra last decade
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