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Hello all,I would be grateful if the homeopaths on this board could help me with a matter as I am not able to access my homeopath at the moment.
I have been taking thuja for a chronic condition in acending potencies since the last 6 weeks and it initially worked well and still covers the case. However I also have asthmatic symptoms which have worsened recently due to the cold wet weather in the UK. I have read that arsenicum (also covers case well)is an acute of thuja and have taken regular doses of 30 (1 week) and then 200 (also for 1 week). I also have some 1M & 10M on stand by.
I get a good reaction after the first few doses of the arsenicum but then it stops working as well despite using a split/wet dose method.
During this time on the arsenicum, I have not repeated the thuja. I am puzzled as to what I Should do next. Should I:
1.reintroduce the thuja alongside the arsenicum eg take one in the morning and one in the evening?
2.Move onto the 1M of arsenicum and then 10M if needed?
3. Try thuja alone on a different potency?
4. Other?
I would be grateful for your input and advice, thank you.
Regards
MB
MrBrightside on 2010-11-19
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
Not an easy question without fully understanding the background to this case.
Arsenicum is a well known palliative for Asthma. This means it can help the symptoms without curing the cause. It might also suppress the asthma which could have more dire consequences for your long-term treatment.
Although Ars and Thuja are complementary it is hard to know if that is the situation here. If it is, then it may be necessary to alternate them. Of course, needing to alternate remedies means that the correct remedy (the simillimum) is not either of them.
First rule is don't take two remedies togther. I would try not to break that one.
If you were my client I would be reassessing the case to see what the Ars is doing, to see if Thuja is still indicated, to see if there is a third remedy that I haven't yet found.
Arsenicum is a well known palliative for Asthma. This means it can help the symptoms without curing the cause. It might also suppress the asthma which could have more dire consequences for your long-term treatment.
Although Ars and Thuja are complementary it is hard to know if that is the situation here. If it is, then it may be necessary to alternate them. Of course, needing to alternate remedies means that the correct remedy (the simillimum) is not either of them.
First rule is don't take two remedies togther. I would try not to break that one.
If you were my client I would be reassessing the case to see what the Ars is doing, to see if Thuja is still indicated, to see if there is a third remedy that I haven't yet found.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Dear Brisbanehomeopath
Thank you for your advice, since my initial post I have taken 3 dry doses of Arsenicum 1M over 24 hours with some improvement. I will not take the thuja at the same time, thank you.
To provide some background to the case, I have been having homeopathic treatment for a few years now for cystic fibrosis, acne, anxiety,fatigue and depression. I have been treated with several of the polychrests at varying potencies but in all honesty have seen little improvement. 8 weeks ago I was prescribed thuja in an ascending scale from 30C to 10M and then 10M water potency on a daily basis. During this time I was off my nebulised antibiotic treatment and allopathically was only taking pancreatic enzymes.
I did notice a little improvement and then my digestive & respiratory symptoms worsened. I had gnawing stomach pains and diarrhea and I became increasingly breathless on the slightest exertion and had increased sputum production, tightness & wheezing & fatigue esp around 12-3pm & 12-3am & on lying down which is what lead me to think of Arsenicum. I checked some of my materia medica (i'm also a hpathy student) and felt the Arsenicum seemed to cover alot of my physical generals and mental/emotionals and ordered 200, 1M & 10M potencies as I only had 30's which only provided a little improvement on the 1st few doses.
This describes the situation up until 2 weeks and I have since then had 1 week on 30c, 1 week on 200c, and 3 doses of 1M. I am also going to resume the nebulised antibiotics on a low dose for the next 7-10 days or so as I need to do something or I will end up in hospital and will have to take far worse.
I am wondering if a short course of Ant tart may also help.
I know this sounds like a very allopathic approach but I have tried the 'classical' method for some time and it has not cured any of my main symptoms and I'm at a point where a different strategy is called for. The cystic fibrosis is quite advanced anyway and it may be that palliation is all that can be done for it.
Sorry for the long post and I look forward to any input you have.
Regrds
MB
Thank you for your advice, since my initial post I have taken 3 dry doses of Arsenicum 1M over 24 hours with some improvement. I will not take the thuja at the same time, thank you.
To provide some background to the case, I have been having homeopathic treatment for a few years now for cystic fibrosis, acne, anxiety,fatigue and depression. I have been treated with several of the polychrests at varying potencies but in all honesty have seen little improvement. 8 weeks ago I was prescribed thuja in an ascending scale from 30C to 10M and then 10M water potency on a daily basis. During this time I was off my nebulised antibiotic treatment and allopathically was only taking pancreatic enzymes.
I did notice a little improvement and then my digestive & respiratory symptoms worsened. I had gnawing stomach pains and diarrhea and I became increasingly breathless on the slightest exertion and had increased sputum production, tightness & wheezing & fatigue esp around 12-3pm & 12-3am & on lying down which is what lead me to think of Arsenicum. I checked some of my materia medica (i'm also a hpathy student) and felt the Arsenicum seemed to cover alot of my physical generals and mental/emotionals and ordered 200, 1M & 10M potencies as I only had 30's which only provided a little improvement on the 1st few doses.
This describes the situation up until 2 weeks and I have since then had 1 week on 30c, 1 week on 200c, and 3 doses of 1M. I am also going to resume the nebulised antibiotics on a low dose for the next 7-10 days or so as I need to do something or I will end up in hospital and will have to take far worse.
I am wondering if a short course of Ant tart may also help.
I know this sounds like a very allopathic approach but I have tried the 'classical' method for some time and it has not cured any of my main symptoms and I'm at a point where a different strategy is called for. The cystic fibrosis is quite advanced anyway and it may be that palliation is all that can be done for it.
Sorry for the long post and I look forward to any input you have.
Regrds
MB
MrBrightside last decade
MB sorry I saw you were going on to antibiotics I didn't realise you were asking for help from us. My apologies.
I don't have any experience with treating cystic fibrosis, I do not know what the prognosis would be for such a disease. I am also not sure that a forum like this would be the right medium for treatment. It could work but I think for advanced cases of pathology you generally want someone face-to-face to monitor you.
I doubt that homoeopathy has failed you at this stage- it is never homoeopathy but the homoeopath. I fail clients too but the failure is mine. Sometimes those patients come back in a year and I my skill has grown enough to help them.
Are you wanting someone here to take over treatment?
Can you give a complete list of what you have been given to you homoeopathically and what has happened?
How advanced is your condition, and what have you done for it from an orthodox perspective?
What drugs are you currently on?
I don't have any experience with treating cystic fibrosis, I do not know what the prognosis would be for such a disease. I am also not sure that a forum like this would be the right medium for treatment. It could work but I think for advanced cases of pathology you generally want someone face-to-face to monitor you.
I doubt that homoeopathy has failed you at this stage- it is never homoeopathy but the homoeopath. I fail clients too but the failure is mine. Sometimes those patients come back in a year and I my skill has grown enough to help them.
Are you wanting someone here to take over treatment?
Can you give a complete list of what you have been given to you homoeopathically and what has happened?
How advanced is your condition, and what have you done for it from an orthodox perspective?
What drugs are you currently on?
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
Thank you brisbanehomeopath,
I think you are correct in suggesting working with a homeopath face to face is the best way to go.
I do think that I need to consider changing homeopath at this point but I am unsure if this person also needs to be medically qualified taking my diagnosis/pathology
into account as working with 'lay' homeopaths has failed to produce lasting improvements.
I'd be interested to hear the views of homeopaths on the forum including yourself about this.
MB
I think you are correct in suggesting working with a homeopath face to face is the best way to go.
I do think that I need to consider changing homeopath at this point but I am unsure if this person also needs to be medically qualified taking my diagnosis/pathology
into account as working with 'lay' homeopaths has failed to produce lasting improvements.
I'd be interested to hear the views of homeopaths on the forum including yourself about this.
MB
MrBrightside last decade
I think that the pathology, especially when advanced, is crucial to understanding how best to proceed with a homoeopathic treatment. At times, the pathology can overwhelm the individuality of the patient and it requires the use of remedies more suited to the specific pathology (this is most marked in Cancer treatment). Of course, at what stage this happens is highly dependent on the individual themselves.
I am a bit confused by the idea of a homoeopath not being medically qualified - my training included 3 1/2 years of standard medical training in physiology and pathology, biochemistry, chemistry etc. It should be enough to handle the problem if their training was standard.
I do not know if a doctor would be any more sucessful from a homoeopathic point of view.
I am a bit confused by the idea of a homoeopath not being medically qualified - my training included 3 1/2 years of standard medical training in physiology and pathology, biochemistry, chemistry etc. It should be enough to handle the problem if their training was standard.
I do not know if a doctor would be any more sucessful from a homoeopathic point of view.
♡ brisbanehomoeopath last decade
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