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infected tonsils
please help me my tonsils are swollen my lymph nodes in my neck are always swollen....do I need to have my tonsils removed....I also have white cheese like formations in my tonsils that smell horrible....Thanks,
Barboy
barboy33 on 2005-08-30
This is just a forum. Assume posts are not from medical professionals.
I am copying posts on this forum which refer to your ailment. The whitish smelly discharge from your tonsils are called "Tonsiloliths" and these do not justify removal of you tonsils which is not done any more. A tonsillectomy is only done as a last resort if after a long course of treatment with Penicillin you are still harbouring a bacteria Beta Haemolyticus Streptococcus which is generally considered to be dangerous as it can affect the joints, kydneys and heart.
You may use Bell 30c dose 3 times daily and see if it can help your ailment.
Re: White Bumps In Throat
From setagllib
on 2004-05-20
I get the same thing. Right in the tonsills. I can feel them when they get larger. I'm able to use my index finger to push(kinda squeezeing) back against tonsill and they'll pop out when big enough or I use a little pick to go up into cavity to dislodge the white calcium looking smelly what ever the hell it is out. Be very careful though that tissue is very delicate back there & you can easily nick the tonsill which will bleed. You'll get the hang of how to use the pick & as to how those cavitys are shaped back there & where these little buggers begin there formation. I'll get them after I drink alcohol say the next day, or before I catch a cold, or they just appear out of know where & I feel somthing deep in the back of my throat. Tell you the truth I CAN'T BELIEVE THESE doctors or who ever they are on this site have never heard of this condition of the tonsills. Doctors once thought the tonsill was of no use, now they say they can act as filters for the body & shouldn't be removed unless infected. SO DOC'S with a DEGREE or KNowledge(just the same) what's the verdict or a educated guest. SO far all your guesses are incorrect up to this point. Take another shot, this forum says your not even liable, what's to loose for
a educated guess or maybe will get a real doctor or KNOWLEDGEABLE person either or is fine. THANKS to all in advance for your time.
Re: White Bumps In Throat
From setagllib
on 2004-05-20
Found some info from another site:
Q: I hope this doesn't sound too gross, but both my sister and I get white particles in the pockets of our tonsils. She thinks it is food buildup but I think it is the bacteria that the tonsils build up. The stuff is like cauliflower, kind of hard and with a foul odor. She thinks she needs to have her tonsils out. Can you advise us on this? We both have it regularly, but our throats are not really sore.
A: DoesnÕt sound gross to me, but itÕs probably a pretty gross problem for you and your sister.
These things are called tonsilloliths ("tonsil stones.") You have described them perfectly. They are typically white, or whitish-yellow, irregularly-shaped, foul-smelling, and usually smaller than a pea. The tissue lining the tonsils (oral mucosa) is fairly sensitive, so people with this problem often report that they feel an irritation in the back of their throat and are able to pick these critters out of their tonsils.
Like your skin, oral mucosa sheds continuously. The dead cells become incorporated in your saliva and then you swallow them. Yum! One more anatomical fact that you need to know: the surface of your tonsils is pockmarked with deep pits, appropriately called "crypts" (since dead stuff accumulates in these pits.) Oral mucosa lines the crypts. Under normal circumstances, as this mucosa sheds, the dead cells leave the crypts and are swallowed. In some unlucky people, like you and your sister, the dead cells accumulate and glom together to form hard little balls. All of this dead stuff makes great food for bacteria, and of course your oral cavity is colonized by all kinds of bacteria. Consequently, the tonsilloliths are ripe with bacteria. This accounts for the smell.
The only sure-fire method for ridding yourself of this problem is to have your tonsils removed (tonsillectomy), but there are nonsurgical alternatives which you should certainly pursue before you ask an ENT to take out your tonsils:
Ð You could try gargling frequently with warm salt water (1 teaspoon of table salt mixed with one pint of waterÐ gargle with about 1/4 cup of this mixture three times per day, after meals.)
Ð You could also gargle with a mouthwash called Alkalol, which is essentially salt water combined with a variety of natural aromatic extracts; some people prefer Alkalol to plain salt water. Most other commercial mouthwashes contain sugar or alcohol, which are pleasant-tasting but are, in the long run, fairly irritating if used frequently.
Ð There is a doctor in Los Angeles, Murray Grossan, who markets a water-jet device for "hosing down" the tonsils. Relative to gargling, this device provides a more aggressive technique for clearing out those nasty crypts.
Ð In the hopes of avoiding tonsillectomy, I will often put my patient on a long (3 to 4 week) course of antibiotics in the hope that this will allow the tonsils to "settle down" (become less inflamed.) I must admit that antibiotics are not a very effective cure for this problem.
If I had this problem, I would try all of these things before resorting to a tonsillectomy. You should also discuss your problem with an ENT, since he/she may have other suggestions to help eradicate these nasty critters, and could also give you information on what to expect from a tonsillectomy.
You may use Bell 30c dose 3 times daily and see if it can help your ailment.
Re: White Bumps In Throat
From setagllib
on 2004-05-20
I get the same thing. Right in the tonsills. I can feel them when they get larger. I'm able to use my index finger to push(kinda squeezeing) back against tonsill and they'll pop out when big enough or I use a little pick to go up into cavity to dislodge the white calcium looking smelly what ever the hell it is out. Be very careful though that tissue is very delicate back there & you can easily nick the tonsill which will bleed. You'll get the hang of how to use the pick & as to how those cavitys are shaped back there & where these little buggers begin there formation. I'll get them after I drink alcohol say the next day, or before I catch a cold, or they just appear out of know where & I feel somthing deep in the back of my throat. Tell you the truth I CAN'T BELIEVE THESE doctors or who ever they are on this site have never heard of this condition of the tonsills. Doctors once thought the tonsill was of no use, now they say they can act as filters for the body & shouldn't be removed unless infected. SO DOC'S with a DEGREE or KNowledge(just the same) what's the verdict or a educated guest. SO far all your guesses are incorrect up to this point. Take another shot, this forum says your not even liable, what's to loose for
a educated guess or maybe will get a real doctor or KNOWLEDGEABLE person either or is fine. THANKS to all in advance for your time.
Re: White Bumps In Throat
From setagllib
on 2004-05-20
Found some info from another site:
Q: I hope this doesn't sound too gross, but both my sister and I get white particles in the pockets of our tonsils. She thinks it is food buildup but I think it is the bacteria that the tonsils build up. The stuff is like cauliflower, kind of hard and with a foul odor. She thinks she needs to have her tonsils out. Can you advise us on this? We both have it regularly, but our throats are not really sore.
A: DoesnÕt sound gross to me, but itÕs probably a pretty gross problem for you and your sister.
These things are called tonsilloliths ("tonsil stones.") You have described them perfectly. They are typically white, or whitish-yellow, irregularly-shaped, foul-smelling, and usually smaller than a pea. The tissue lining the tonsils (oral mucosa) is fairly sensitive, so people with this problem often report that they feel an irritation in the back of their throat and are able to pick these critters out of their tonsils.
Like your skin, oral mucosa sheds continuously. The dead cells become incorporated in your saliva and then you swallow them. Yum! One more anatomical fact that you need to know: the surface of your tonsils is pockmarked with deep pits, appropriately called "crypts" (since dead stuff accumulates in these pits.) Oral mucosa lines the crypts. Under normal circumstances, as this mucosa sheds, the dead cells leave the crypts and are swallowed. In some unlucky people, like you and your sister, the dead cells accumulate and glom together to form hard little balls. All of this dead stuff makes great food for bacteria, and of course your oral cavity is colonized by all kinds of bacteria. Consequently, the tonsilloliths are ripe with bacteria. This accounts for the smell.
The only sure-fire method for ridding yourself of this problem is to have your tonsils removed (tonsillectomy), but there are nonsurgical alternatives which you should certainly pursue before you ask an ENT to take out your tonsils:
Ð You could try gargling frequently with warm salt water (1 teaspoon of table salt mixed with one pint of waterÐ gargle with about 1/4 cup of this mixture three times per day, after meals.)
Ð You could also gargle with a mouthwash called Alkalol, which is essentially salt water combined with a variety of natural aromatic extracts; some people prefer Alkalol to plain salt water. Most other commercial mouthwashes contain sugar or alcohol, which are pleasant-tasting but are, in the long run, fairly irritating if used frequently.
Ð There is a doctor in Los Angeles, Murray Grossan, who markets a water-jet device for "hosing down" the tonsils. Relative to gargling, this device provides a more aggressive technique for clearing out those nasty crypts.
Ð In the hopes of avoiding tonsillectomy, I will often put my patient on a long (3 to 4 week) course of antibiotics in the hope that this will allow the tonsils to "settle down" (become less inflamed.) I must admit that antibiotics are not a very effective cure for this problem.
If I had this problem, I would try all of these things before resorting to a tonsillectomy. You should also discuss your problem with an ENT, since he/she may have other suggestions to help eradicate these nasty critters, and could also give you information on what to expect from a tonsillectomy.
♡ Joe De Livera last decade
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