Potency Question _{Page 2 of 3}

maybe i make myself clearer--or more to point---thyrodium more likethn not prescribed--because of thyroid condition---i never advocate repetitive use as for this condition---without addressing underlying illness -if in fact even curable (not knowing the case)....so i recommend for patient you speak--take single dose 200c dry (2 pelets) and wait and see responce)---take it from there....it sounds either you self prescribe or dumb homoeopath prescriber....either way--be observant---no pipe dreaming when come to health..

Thanks John. The medicine has been on prescription. By response, you mean to say whether it makes one active, then continue the medicine. If it suits then does one take two pellets everyday? Isnt that too much? I want things get cleared before the medication is started.
I fully appreciate your concern that medicine is a medicine and one should take it seriously.

Doctor!!doctor !!,

'I have taken Asafoetida 30c four times a day for last 7 days....I must have done something terribly wrong to my self !!' 'How stupid of me !'

'As per the rule I shouldn't have repeated this med...gosh !!'

Dear Mohini....Asafoetida is the 'hing' that grandmothers have been adding -- a quarter spoon of-- to all the vegetables and meats they have been cooking in the Indian and South Asian homes...every day!!...and nobody died of it!

So don't make 'single' rules for all medicines.

Take each medicine by itself.

Yes repeating often Sulphur, Psorinum, Medo, Thuja etc may be wrong...but many homeopathic meds have no problem if repeated....and there are some that require to be repeated often to give good results like Antim Crud. and Baryta Carb.

Best,
Pankaj Varma

Thanks Pankaj, but dont you think some medicines can prove fatal if taken in a large dose/continued use? Why I am asking is if thyroidinum200 is taken everyday for a nonfunctioning thyroid would it be alright?
I have experimented with 'safe' medicines but have never dared to go for these sort of medicines. Please enlighten me on this issue.
Thanks once again to you all experts from whom we learn and benefit a lot.

just be obervant---no neeless dosing---thta's main thing...

Mohini,
I repeat...there is a seperate rule for each med. No standard rules for all meds.

Thyroidinum.....there are a number of texts that recommend taking this medicine in low potency...as low as 12X...and to be repeated for some time.

If your homeopath is very sure of the choice of the med and knows that the particular med needs to be repeated for result....he will say so.

What John is saying is ...until you are sure it is the right med...don't repeat it and that the first dose will show some results and will help to deciding if it is the right med ...hence ....is to be repeated...or not.

The difference is in the level of confidence of the homeoapths in their ability.

As regards Thyroidinum ....for you...will have to do a case taking to decide if it is the appropriate med for you .

best
Pankaj Varma

sentence correction:

*help in deciding

even when sure--be observant--no unnecessary dosing --

Mohini !
Answering your question further:

There are some meds made out of snake poisions like Lachesis and Crotalus Hor......to repeat them often --- needlessly --- would be a great folly.

So the rule is different for each med.

Not the same....across the board.

Best,
Pankaj Varma

all medicines --one is to be observant..

Observant...have to be as a doctor...even while crossing the road have to be observant...no other way !!

Pankaj, thank you for the clarification. As you say that the thyroid needs to be studied, would you mind undertaking my case?
I was hyperthyroid (puberty goitre)when 18yrs. old with usual symptoms of bulging eyes, trembling hands, swollen neck, reduction in weight,intense sugar craving, very fast breathing, anxiety. I dont remember which medicine I took but it settled after 2-3 years. I had no problem after that till on reaching 35, I suddenly put on weight, losing hair, lethargy, depression. I was under treatment at INMAS in New Delhi. They diagnosed it as hypothyroid which was due to overactive thyroid earlier. The doctors started me on eltroxin and later withdrew it but as soon as the eltroxin stopped my symptoms returned. The doctor finally told me that I would have to take this medicine life long. I am on a maintainence dose of 25mcg.
I hear that thyroidinum can reactivate nonfunctional thyroid. I would like to try it but it is the dosage that worries me.
My family revolves around me and I dont really want to take chances of getting hyper or hypothyroid. If I take 2 pellets of 200 potency as John suggests, would it be fine? I should feel energetic and lively but if I continue taking it, it might result in high metabolic rate and palpitations too. I am confused and dont know what to do.
Can you please help me.

Since allopathic tests have already confirmed hypothyroid activity.....choice of medicine is correct.

You have not mentioned one more symptom....cannot stand opposition to ideas !


You have to take Thyroidinum in 12X or 30X potency 4 hourly for a number of days .

In my estimation one dose of 200C will not cure you...or a couple of doses of the same potency.

For your sake I have consulted a number of texts and they have confirmed tht it has to be given in low poteny and repeated often. Even 30c potency is high for this treatment.

Others have reported success to me in similar situation.

Since you are in India, you will get the potencies I have suggested.

You can try Bhandari in C.Place, Pratap in Defence Colony etc for getting the med...they keep most potencies.
best wishes,
Pankaj Varma

Thanks Pankaj, you guessed right. I dont like being opposed and cannot accept defeat either, so I undertake a lot of challenges.

I was in India, but these days am in ghana, west africa. One doesnt get any homeopathic medicines here at all, so my supply comes from India. But I told someone to get me the whole bottle of thyroidinum 200! Can I take one dose everyday or would you advise me not to take it? I might make a visit to India in mid june, so I can start taking your prescribed potency of 12x, since you feel 30x is high.

Do you suggest pellets or wet dose in which you dissolve 3 pellets and just sip a spoonful? I am willing to do anything.

Thanks a lot for helping me out. I really appreciate that.

I forgot to ask whether I can contiue with eltroxin or I will have to stop it?

I also feel very cold, so is amusing that I wear socks when I sleep. Also, sometimes when I am sleeping there is severe palpitation which is sort of gagging and I gasp for breath. My breathing becomes fast and my chest feels congested. I keep spongia and aconite by my bedside and take 2 pills of either. aconite for sudden symptoms and spongia for tachycardia. But, I usually get relief after 2-3 minutes and can then go off to sleep.
Are these medicines fine?
Thanks once again.

you use so products at all? vegetarian ?

so products=soy products

Yes, I make it a point to usually include a chunk of bean curd/tofu in my diet everyday. Why are you asking this? Is this somehow related to my problem?

I am a vegetarian but very occassionally take chicken, maybe once in two or three months. I love eggs but avoid them because of high cholesterol content.

thyroidinum 200 liquid or pellets you have ??

Start taking a dose every 2 hour...after you reply my question will furhter modify dosage.
Best,
Pankaj Varma

Mohini...you have to understnd what Thyroidinum is...it is the 'dried extract of the Thyroid gland of the sheep'.

So just take the potency you have in quick doses as suggested..unmindful of your allopathic drugs you are taking ....and watch the result. (It will work as if you are taking a lower potency).

Get the lower potency as soon as you can....then switch to that.

Best,
Pankaj Varma

pankaj your slipping--dont get too lax in your words..'unmindful of alopathic med taking'

eltroxin is for thyroid under activity---thyrodium will have as primary effect on thyroid function---eltroxin will need be reduced of smptoms associated with opposite effect will arise .....monitor thyroid function and reduce med or if self prescribe eltroxin (online purchase) then sop usage and start from there..you need post your sneezing symptom metioned in other post here--so pankaj gets the full story...

Dear John,
I have seen her sneezing story too....and Mohini for good homeopathic advice post all your symptoms together on one thread as homeopaths have to see a patient as a whole and each symptom gives the homeopath a clue towards the diagnosis.

Reg. the allopathic med...John...I would very much want her to stop it...but you are aware patients have a dread of that many times.

I would like Mohini to stop allopathic drugs as soon as Thyroidinum begins to show results...which it would in 2to 3 days of starting the med as symptoms in her case as very defined.

gud wishes to all.
Pankaj Varma

correction:

in her case *are

Thank you Pankaj and John for being so observant. The sneezing post is for my cousin. She came to know that I actively communicate in this forum so, she sent me her problem. I just copied and pasted, forgot to write that it was not my problem. I apologise for the confusion.
I had posted another case for you all regarding my aunt who is 83 and is going through a lot of problem. We desperately hope to get some relief for her.
Thanks once again.

Pankaj, I have the liquid 200 potency.
One dose means one drop every hour? or you want me to have 2 pellets every two hour?
Yes, let me be honest in saying that stopping eltroxin all of a sudden would need a lot of guts from my part. As you say, I can begin your treatment and after 3-4 days stop having eltroxin. My body till that time would get used to thyroidinum.
Apart from hypothryroid, I have minor arthritis problem for which I take rhus tox and also do yoga. Arthritis, high cholesterol, diabetes, high blood pressure all run in my family so I try to be careful. Any other details you need I would be most willing to share.
Thank you Pankaj and John.

Pankaj, I would begin my dose once I get the confirmation and go ahead mail from you.

I want the 200 potency to work like a lower potency ....so take 6 drops in 1/10th glass of water every two hours.

When improvement sets in...will reduce frequency of dosage.
Stop Rhus Tox.
Keep me posted.
Best,
Pankaj Varma