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Regent,
No way. I do not want you feeling bad again, even if it is to go along with us on this painful journey. But you've been through it, and you have had your time of misery. SO no way you should go through it again! I am so happy that you are done with Effexor, and even though you are pretty much done the transformation, I still enjoy reading your advice and your kind words, so don't stop the posts! LOL What you write is not nonsense and it is very much appreciated.Besides, we all want to know how you're doing!! And by the way, your home sounds wonderful. I'm happy you've found a home that will bring you happiness and peace!
Oh and Jami, I'll see ya there, I'm using a laptop to write this because I'm on a plane right now! JK!!!
Hugs to all:-)
No way. I do not want you feeling bad again, even if it is to go along with us on this painful journey. But you've been through it, and you have had your time of misery. SO no way you should go through it again! I am so happy that you are done with Effexor, and even though you are pretty much done the transformation, I still enjoy reading your advice and your kind words, so don't stop the posts! LOL What you write is not nonsense and it is very much appreciated.Besides, we all want to know how you're doing!! And by the way, your home sounds wonderful. I'm happy you've found a home that will bring you happiness and peace!
Oh and Jami, I'll see ya there, I'm using a laptop to write this because I'm on a plane right now! JK!!!
Hugs to all:-)
Elena last decade
Regent,
No way. I do not want you feeling bad again, even if it is to go along with us on this painful journey. But you've been through it, and you have had your time of misery. SO no way you should go through it again! I am so happy that you are done with Effexor, and even though you are pretty much done the transformation, I still enjoy reading your advice and your kind words, so don't stop the posts! LOL What you write is not nonsense and it is very much appreciated.Besides, we all want to know how you're doing!! And by the way, your home sounds wonderful. I'm happy you've found a home that will bring you happiness and peace!
Oh and Jami, I'll see ya there, I'm using a laptop to write this because I'm on a plane right now! JK!!!
Hugs to all:-)
No way. I do not want you feeling bad again, even if it is to go along with us on this painful journey. But you've been through it, and you have had your time of misery. SO no way you should go through it again! I am so happy that you are done with Effexor, and even though you are pretty much done the transformation, I still enjoy reading your advice and your kind words, so don't stop the posts! LOL What you write is not nonsense and it is very much appreciated.Besides, we all want to know how you're doing!! And by the way, your home sounds wonderful. I'm happy you've found a home that will bring you happiness and peace!
Oh and Jami, I'll see ya there, I'm using a laptop to write this because I'm on a plane right now! JK!!!
Hugs to all:-)
Elena last decade
Hi everyone,
This is my sixth Effoxor free day. Yesterday after having a good experience with half a pill of Dramamine I tried it again the following morning. I was so sleepy that day it was awful. I wasn't dizzy but being so drowsy was dangerous. No Dramamine today at all and hardly any dizzy spells. I continue to drink copious amounts of water, preferably with ice. I'm sticking to two tea bags a day. Today I'm feeling so much better and the 'zaps' aren't as intense. It's been important for me to keep my mind busy, that seems to minimize the zaps. In these first few days of detox I've noticed a distinct change in the color of my urine (sorry if this offends some). I take this as a sign that as the grip of effexor wear of my system is able to get rid of the crap that's accumulated over time. My abdomin however is still bloated and I've had little craving for meat whatsover which is a huge change while on effexor - must have to do with suppression intestinal protein uptake.
The hot cold flashes have really reduced and my face isn't flushed red like a tomato anymore. My skin hasn't had this good of color in a long, long time!
Cat, I haven't purposefully stuck my finger in a light socket but I have been shocked twice. The second time was a duzzy as it held me to the connection (An electric skillet shorted out) Once I broke free my entire left side was numb and I slumped to the ground. Getting shocked is not fun at all.
Rhonda, Hang in there honey. I was drinking alot before effexor which was a self medication of the depression. Since I quit the effexor the thought of alcohol makes my nose curl. I openned a bottle of Merlot on Sunday and it's still sitting there 3/4 full. Drink lots and lots of water. The second day and third day were the worst for me but knowing that it get's better makes me hold on even more strongly.
Take care all,
Melissa
This is my sixth Effoxor free day. Yesterday after having a good experience with half a pill of Dramamine I tried it again the following morning. I was so sleepy that day it was awful. I wasn't dizzy but being so drowsy was dangerous. No Dramamine today at all and hardly any dizzy spells. I continue to drink copious amounts of water, preferably with ice. I'm sticking to two tea bags a day. Today I'm feeling so much better and the 'zaps' aren't as intense. It's been important for me to keep my mind busy, that seems to minimize the zaps. In these first few days of detox I've noticed a distinct change in the color of my urine (sorry if this offends some). I take this as a sign that as the grip of effexor wear of my system is able to get rid of the crap that's accumulated over time. My abdomin however is still bloated and I've had little craving for meat whatsover which is a huge change while on effexor - must have to do with suppression intestinal protein uptake.
The hot cold flashes have really reduced and my face isn't flushed red like a tomato anymore. My skin hasn't had this good of color in a long, long time!
Cat, I haven't purposefully stuck my finger in a light socket but I have been shocked twice. The second time was a duzzy as it held me to the connection (An electric skillet shorted out) Once I broke free my entire left side was numb and I slumped to the ground. Getting shocked is not fun at all.
Rhonda, Hang in there honey. I was drinking alot before effexor which was a self medication of the depression. Since I quit the effexor the thought of alcohol makes my nose curl. I openned a bottle of Merlot on Sunday and it's still sitting there 3/4 full. Drink lots and lots of water. The second day and third day were the worst for me but knowing that it get's better makes me hold on even more strongly.
Take care all,
Melissa
melissa14 last decade
Hi everyone,
This is my sixth Effoxor free day. Yesterday after having a good experience with half a pill of Dramamine I tried it again the following morning. I was so sleepy that day it was awful. I wasn't dizzy but being so drowsy was dangerous. No Dramamine today at all and hardly any dizzy spells. I continue to drink copious amounts of water, preferably with ice. I'm sticking to two tea bags a day. Today I'm feeling so much better and the 'zaps' aren't as intense. It's been important for me to keep my mind busy, that seems to minimize the zaps. In these first few days of detox I've noticed a distinct change in the color of my urine (sorry if this offends some). I take this as a sign that as the grip of effexor wear of my system is able to get rid of the crap that's accumulated over time. My abdomin however is still bloated and I've had little craving for meat whatsover which is a huge change while on effexor - must have to do with suppression intestinal protein uptake.
The hot cold flashes have really reduced and my face isn't flushed red like a tomato anymore. My skin hasn't had this good of color in a long, long time!
Cat, I haven't purposefully stuck my finger in a light socket but I have been shocked twice. The second time was a duzzy as it held me to the connection (An electric skillet shorted out) Once I broke free my entire left side was numb and I slumped to the ground. Getting shocked is not fun at all.
Rhonda, Hang in there honey. I was drinking alot before effexor which was a self medication of the depression. Since I quit the effexor the thought of alcohol makes my nose curl. I openned a bottle of Merlot on Sunday and it's still sitting there 3/4 full. Drink lots and lots of water. The second day and third day were the worst for me but knowing that it get's better makes me hold on even more strongly.
Take care all,
Melissa
This is my sixth Effoxor free day. Yesterday after having a good experience with half a pill of Dramamine I tried it again the following morning. I was so sleepy that day it was awful. I wasn't dizzy but being so drowsy was dangerous. No Dramamine today at all and hardly any dizzy spells. I continue to drink copious amounts of water, preferably with ice. I'm sticking to two tea bags a day. Today I'm feeling so much better and the 'zaps' aren't as intense. It's been important for me to keep my mind busy, that seems to minimize the zaps. In these first few days of detox I've noticed a distinct change in the color of my urine (sorry if this offends some). I take this as a sign that as the grip of effexor wear of my system is able to get rid of the crap that's accumulated over time. My abdomin however is still bloated and I've had little craving for meat whatsover which is a huge change while on effexor - must have to do with suppression intestinal protein uptake.
The hot cold flashes have really reduced and my face isn't flushed red like a tomato anymore. My skin hasn't had this good of color in a long, long time!
Cat, I haven't purposefully stuck my finger in a light socket but I have been shocked twice. The second time was a duzzy as it held me to the connection (An electric skillet shorted out) Once I broke free my entire left side was numb and I slumped to the ground. Getting shocked is not fun at all.
Rhonda, Hang in there honey. I was drinking alot before effexor which was a self medication of the depression. Since I quit the effexor the thought of alcohol makes my nose curl. I openned a bottle of Merlot on Sunday and it's still sitting there 3/4 full. Drink lots and lots of water. The second day and third day were the worst for me but knowing that it get's better makes me hold on even more strongly.
Take care all,
Melissa
melissa14 last decade
Hi everyone,
This is my sixth Effoxor free day. Yesterday after having a good experience with half a pill of Dramamine I tried it again the following morning. I was so sleepy that day it was awful. I wasn't dizzy but being so drowsy was dangerous. No Dramamine today at all and hardly any dizzy spells. I continue to drink copious amounts of water, preferably with ice. I'm sticking to two tea bags a day. Today I'm feeling so much better and the 'zaps' aren't as intense. It's been important for me to keep my mind busy, that seems to minimize the zaps. In these first few days of detox I've noticed a distinct change in the color of my urine (sorry if this offends some). I take this as a sign that as the grip of effexor wear of my system is able to get rid of the crap that's accumulated over time. My abdomin however is still bloated and I've had little craving for meat whatsover which is a huge change while on effexor - must have to do with suppression intestinal protein uptake.
The hot cold flashes have really reduced and my face isn't flushed red like a tomato anymore. My skin hasn't had this good of color in a long, long time!
Cat, I haven't purposefully stuck my finger in a light socket but I have been shocked twice. The second time was a duzzy as it held me to the connection (An electric skillet shorted out) Once I broke free my entire left side was numb and I slumped to the ground. Getting shocked is not fun at all.
Rhonda, Hang in there honey. I was drinking alot before effexor which was a self medication of the depression. Since I quit the effexor the thought of alcohol makes my nose curl. I openned a bottle of Merlot on Sunday and it's still sitting there 3/4 full. Drink lots and lots of water. The second day and third day were the worst for me but knowing that it get's better makes me hold on even more strongly.
Take care all,
Melissa
This is my sixth Effoxor free day. Yesterday after having a good experience with half a pill of Dramamine I tried it again the following morning. I was so sleepy that day it was awful. I wasn't dizzy but being so drowsy was dangerous. No Dramamine today at all and hardly any dizzy spells. I continue to drink copious amounts of water, preferably with ice. I'm sticking to two tea bags a day. Today I'm feeling so much better and the 'zaps' aren't as intense. It's been important for me to keep my mind busy, that seems to minimize the zaps. In these first few days of detox I've noticed a distinct change in the color of my urine (sorry if this offends some). I take this as a sign that as the grip of effexor wear of my system is able to get rid of the crap that's accumulated over time. My abdomin however is still bloated and I've had little craving for meat whatsover which is a huge change while on effexor - must have to do with suppression intestinal protein uptake.
The hot cold flashes have really reduced and my face isn't flushed red like a tomato anymore. My skin hasn't had this good of color in a long, long time!
Cat, I haven't purposefully stuck my finger in a light socket but I have been shocked twice. The second time was a duzzy as it held me to the connection (An electric skillet shorted out) Once I broke free my entire left side was numb and I slumped to the ground. Getting shocked is not fun at all.
Rhonda, Hang in there honey. I was drinking alot before effexor which was a self medication of the depression. Since I quit the effexor the thought of alcohol makes my nose curl. I openned a bottle of Merlot on Sunday and it's still sitting there 3/4 full. Drink lots and lots of water. The second day and third day were the worst for me but knowing that it get's better makes me hold on even more strongly.
Take care all,
Melissa
melissa14 last decade
Ohh guys so proud to hear your doing it though I know it is horrible. Melissa i think it was Michelle that said the sea bands worked well for that dizzy stuff and no drowsiness!
Each day will be bring your closer to being free.
As for the urine issue I experienced the same thing and I can't stop going peeeee! heheh Also still having issues with the other bodily function though they both are getting better daily.
OHH OH OHHH lol Also my hubby commented on my skin looking really different and he notices very little like that. I had noticed too that its just clear and glowy and I look more "alive" as he said...isnt that odd?
Doing well here today! Wish I could be there to help you all that are struggling a little buch each day is a day closer it was only about 24 days since I first posted here at the start of my Effexor detox and I would say I have come soooo far already though there is a way to go before I feel in control of things again but after the first week of totally being off the meds you will be homefree. Take care of yourself and you can do it!
jami
Each day will be bring your closer to being free.
As for the urine issue I experienced the same thing and I can't stop going peeeee! heheh Also still having issues with the other bodily function though they both are getting better daily.
OHH OH OHHH lol Also my hubby commented on my skin looking really different and he notices very little like that. I had noticed too that its just clear and glowy and I look more "alive" as he said...isnt that odd?
Doing well here today! Wish I could be there to help you all that are struggling a little buch each day is a day closer it was only about 24 days since I first posted here at the start of my Effexor detox and I would say I have come soooo far already though there is a way to go before I feel in control of things again but after the first week of totally being off the meds you will be homefree. Take care of yourself and you can do it!
jami
Jamikissezs last decade
Sorry everyone for the impatient posting. I suppose I should have faith that what's not seen can happen.
Jami, thanks for the confirmation about the urine, I wondered if it was just me. If your husband made a comment about your complexion, OMG girl !!!! It takes an act of congress for most guys to notice the little things :)
As for the other body function the new roids I sprouted are much improved in the past 2 days...LOL.
My bodies is wanting whole foods, whole wheat, fruits, plain yogurt, nuts, chicken and fish. The past two days I've had a salt craving which is no doubt in response to w/d dehydration and the liver and kidneys being alloyed with the effects of effexor to do their job. Going through this I feel like such a drug addict. I'm on the other side of it now and feeling so much more confindent in getting Effexor and everything it let allowed through system suppression to accumulate OUT of my system.
Hugs to all,
Melissa
p.s - I promise to only hit the I agree button once! :)
Jami, thanks for the confirmation about the urine, I wondered if it was just me. If your husband made a comment about your complexion, OMG girl !!!! It takes an act of congress for most guys to notice the little things :)
As for the other body function the new roids I sprouted are much improved in the past 2 days...LOL.
My bodies is wanting whole foods, whole wheat, fruits, plain yogurt, nuts, chicken and fish. The past two days I've had a salt craving which is no doubt in response to w/d dehydration and the liver and kidneys being alloyed with the effects of effexor to do their job. Going through this I feel like such a drug addict. I'm on the other side of it now and feeling so much more confindent in getting Effexor and everything it let allowed through system suppression to accumulate OUT of my system.
Hugs to all,
Melissa
p.s - I promise to only hit the I agree button once! :)
melissa14 last decade
Hi girls, just curious if anyone else is on anything else besides effexor for depression. I am also taking zoloft and wellbutrin. I would eventually like to get off of those, but one thing at a time. I guess my husband won't be saying that to me about me glowing. I will still have stuff in me even after the effexor. LOL
I think that is really sweet of your husband Jami. That had to make you feel really good.
Ok girls, we have another day tomorrow. Wonder what it will bring for us.
Also havent seen Cat today.
Hope she is ok
Did anyone ever hear anything from Hope. :(
Hugs,
Bonnie
I think that is really sweet of your husband Jami. That had to make you feel really good.
Ok girls, we have another day tomorrow. Wonder what it will bring for us.
Also havent seen Cat today.
Hope she is ok
Did anyone ever hear anything from Hope. :(
Hugs,
Bonnie
BonnieR last decade
Hi guys - yesterday was a really busy day and I did not have time to get online. I had worked for a week (that was when I discovered this site)and it was easy to monitor my email. I have dial up at home and don't like to spend a lot of time on the computer. But I am home now until my next assignment and I had the catchups to do.
It is now 3:30 a.m. I am on the day that I am not taking the pill and I am up and wide awake. I ironed first then decided to see how everyone is. In the two years I have been on effexor, the ironing has been way behind, I had always done it in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep and my eyes were too tired to read). We have a train crossing about 1/4 mi from my house and there is one that goes by at around 3 am. I have lived in this house for 18 years and until I had that serious depression episode that got me started on effexor, I could sleep through it. Well, just cutting back the small amount that I have has given me the insomnia again. I get to sleep fine but come that train I am wide awake. I sleep fine when the effexor is in my system.
I have been trying to go back and see where each of you joined this site and follow your progress, very interesting. I wonder if when I get into serious weaning and detox I will exhibit the highs and lows I have seen in your writings.
We are going to St. Louis next week for a business seminar and I will have to socialize with people who know me so I cannot start the serious stuff until we get back. I'm anxious to really get started.
Bonnie - I'm glad to have someone around my age to talk to about this withdrawal. You are ahead of me so it has been interesting to follow your progress.
Regent - you are one hot s**t. You sound like a lot of fun. I went back to when you started on the site and followed for a couple of pages but I cannot focus for too long because of my blurred vision. It has made reading hell, and I love to read. So I am slowly learning about each of you. Might as well do that now before I start the bad stuff.
I am only up to page 4 to read thoroughly but I do notice that some of the things I have said, have been said before, but it doesn't hurt to reinforce these ideas because sometimes it takes a while for things to sink in (in my case anyway).
Our fountain soda machine at work makes a loud noise when compressing and Wed at work it did it when I was getting my herbal tea. I put my hands over my ears and said "ooh, that noise" - it sounded just like the noise the brain zaps make in my head. One of the paralegals was standing there and asked me what was wrong and I explained to her what I was doing. She has a friend who just started on Effexor and when I told her all the horror stories, she called her up and told her to do the withdrawal research. If I can save at least one person from this heartache, I will feel good. I can't believe how many people I know that are on antidepressants. And most of them won't stop because it makes them feel better.
I am stocking up on the stuff, chaser, peroxide, epsom salts, benadryl, etc. Went to GNC to get the cleanser and had an interesting conversation with the manager. First, he suggested I use a cleanser called Cleanse Today while on the pill and then use the whole body one after I stop taking the pill. He was a psych major in college and still keeps in touch with friends who went into the mental health field. He has hear horror stories from them about patients on SSRI's, that getting off cold turkey causes lots and lots of homicidal and suicidal problems. He agreed with me that gps, internists and others should not be allowed to prescribe these drugs, only mental health professionals.
Am having another hot flash - ironically another symptom that I attributed to my going off my hormones. I had the sweating with effexor but not quite as bad as since I have been weaning down (and it's only been a month). I can't even imagine what you guys who have weaned down from 300 mg have gone through.
I'm sorry to be so long winded all the time but when I get on a roll I can't stop. I don't write some people often but when I do they get 7-10 single spaced typed letters from me! I'll try to check in again tomorrow because today is another one of those busy days. Love and prayers to all.
It is now 3:30 a.m. I am on the day that I am not taking the pill and I am up and wide awake. I ironed first then decided to see how everyone is. In the two years I have been on effexor, the ironing has been way behind, I had always done it in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep and my eyes were too tired to read). We have a train crossing about 1/4 mi from my house and there is one that goes by at around 3 am. I have lived in this house for 18 years and until I had that serious depression episode that got me started on effexor, I could sleep through it. Well, just cutting back the small amount that I have has given me the insomnia again. I get to sleep fine but come that train I am wide awake. I sleep fine when the effexor is in my system.
I have been trying to go back and see where each of you joined this site and follow your progress, very interesting. I wonder if when I get into serious weaning and detox I will exhibit the highs and lows I have seen in your writings.
We are going to St. Louis next week for a business seminar and I will have to socialize with people who know me so I cannot start the serious stuff until we get back. I'm anxious to really get started.
Bonnie - I'm glad to have someone around my age to talk to about this withdrawal. You are ahead of me so it has been interesting to follow your progress.
Regent - you are one hot s**t. You sound like a lot of fun. I went back to when you started on the site and followed for a couple of pages but I cannot focus for too long because of my blurred vision. It has made reading hell, and I love to read. So I am slowly learning about each of you. Might as well do that now before I start the bad stuff.
I am only up to page 4 to read thoroughly but I do notice that some of the things I have said, have been said before, but it doesn't hurt to reinforce these ideas because sometimes it takes a while for things to sink in (in my case anyway).
Our fountain soda machine at work makes a loud noise when compressing and Wed at work it did it when I was getting my herbal tea. I put my hands over my ears and said "ooh, that noise" - it sounded just like the noise the brain zaps make in my head. One of the paralegals was standing there and asked me what was wrong and I explained to her what I was doing. She has a friend who just started on Effexor and when I told her all the horror stories, she called her up and told her to do the withdrawal research. If I can save at least one person from this heartache, I will feel good. I can't believe how many people I know that are on antidepressants. And most of them won't stop because it makes them feel better.
I am stocking up on the stuff, chaser, peroxide, epsom salts, benadryl, etc. Went to GNC to get the cleanser and had an interesting conversation with the manager. First, he suggested I use a cleanser called Cleanse Today while on the pill and then use the whole body one after I stop taking the pill. He was a psych major in college and still keeps in touch with friends who went into the mental health field. He has hear horror stories from them about patients on SSRI's, that getting off cold turkey causes lots and lots of homicidal and suicidal problems. He agreed with me that gps, internists and others should not be allowed to prescribe these drugs, only mental health professionals.
Am having another hot flash - ironically another symptom that I attributed to my going off my hormones. I had the sweating with effexor but not quite as bad as since I have been weaning down (and it's only been a month). I can't even imagine what you guys who have weaned down from 300 mg have gone through.
I'm sorry to be so long winded all the time but when I get on a roll I can't stop. I don't write some people often but when I do they get 7-10 single spaced typed letters from me! I'll try to check in again tomorrow because today is another one of those busy days. Love and prayers to all.
catgranny last decade
Hello all,
I've been exercizing alot more lately because I am so antsy. Also my eating habits have changed! I know that you all have noticed this but wow, I am not craving the same stuff I used to. No desire for sweets, but I am craving big salads and chicken. I have also stopped snacking before bed, I just have not wanted to, and I haven't for over a month now! I'm not nearly as hungry at night now. (I don't know if the reason I did have the cravings at night was because of Effexor..but I'm sure I was more hungry because of it.)
I'm happy about the decreased snacking, but it seems that no matter how much I exersize I still have a puffy bloated tummy. It's awful and it's making me self conscious. I am not trying to be negitive or feel sorry for myself but damn! I just wish this belly would go away!!
I never used to have it this bad. I hate the feeling of being puffy and bloated. I just feel so yucky. Although it helps me feel better when I work out. Melissa I deffinatly agree on drinking lots of water. That seems to help me out.It makes me feel better somehow.
Glad to hear that the body does regenerate after all this torture. Melissa and Jami I can't wait to see if my boyfriend notices if my skin looks better! LOL
Bonnie, you're doing great by getting off this effexor, just take it one step at a time. If you want to get off the rest as well, you will. You're strong and we are here for ya if you need us.
Cat I agree that being off the effexor inhibits sleeping patterns. I can't seem to get into a deep sleep now that I have been lowering my dose. I feel like I could get up and go for a walk at 2 am! But my eyes are so sleepy!
Take care everyone,
Big Hugs
I've been exercizing alot more lately because I am so antsy. Also my eating habits have changed! I know that you all have noticed this but wow, I am not craving the same stuff I used to. No desire for sweets, but I am craving big salads and chicken. I have also stopped snacking before bed, I just have not wanted to, and I haven't for over a month now! I'm not nearly as hungry at night now. (I don't know if the reason I did have the cravings at night was because of Effexor..but I'm sure I was more hungry because of it.)
I'm happy about the decreased snacking, but it seems that no matter how much I exersize I still have a puffy bloated tummy. It's awful and it's making me self conscious. I am not trying to be negitive or feel sorry for myself but damn! I just wish this belly would go away!!
I never used to have it this bad. I hate the feeling of being puffy and bloated. I just feel so yucky. Although it helps me feel better when I work out. Melissa I deffinatly agree on drinking lots of water. That seems to help me out.It makes me feel better somehow.
Glad to hear that the body does regenerate after all this torture. Melissa and Jami I can't wait to see if my boyfriend notices if my skin looks better! LOL
Bonnie, you're doing great by getting off this effexor, just take it one step at a time. If you want to get off the rest as well, you will. You're strong and we are here for ya if you need us.
Cat I agree that being off the effexor inhibits sleeping patterns. I can't seem to get into a deep sleep now that I have been lowering my dose. I feel like I could get up and go for a walk at 2 am! But my eyes are so sleepy!
Take care everyone,
Big Hugs
Elena last decade
good morning....i have discovered this site, taking comfort in learning that what my daughter is experiencing (from her cold turkey stoppage of 37.5mg of effexor) is not unique to her...this is a struggle, she is extremely brave & determined to hang in there...she is 22, college student, home for the summer with an amazing internship...her 8 months of effexor was prescribed for GAD, not depression, since end of Jan'05 her dose was 150mg...by mid april,at my daughter's request the doctor got her down to 37.5 with no w/d symptoms...today is her 5th day effexor free....my question to any of you... roughly, how long can she expect to feel these w/d effects? do any of you know of someone who has been effexor free for longer than days? I am angry with the drug companies, FDA, & her therapist for suggesting a short term of medication will be helpful.....
wonderingwhy last decade
Hi everyone. I totally understand the antsiness I could always count on falling asleep an hour after I took Effexor. After it was the constant vivid dreams. I swear one night post effexor I looked at the clock it was 10:15 and I was exhausted so I turned off the TV and laid down. I had the "longest" most detailed dream I thought I must have been sleeping for hours when I popped awake. I mean who has that intense of a dream unless they have been sleeping awhile. Well it was barely 10:45 a short half hour later. The first 2 and half weeks were horrible for the dreaming and the light sleep. I took Benadryl before bed regularly so I could sleep. Its been 25 days or so and only the last 4 nights have I gone to bed without the Benadryl and still slept decent though I pop up ready to go in the morning which is nice. Late nights I wana go excersize instead of snack now so I am going to get the treadmil and bike from my grandparents and put them in our spare room.
I am moving, did I mention that? We are moving next to my other grandparents in the next two weeks...long story short my other grandparents have just really declined in health the last year and my grandpa on that side had a really bad UTI about 3 weeks ago and he is still really weak and has a catheter with him they tried to remove but he hasn't been able to recover function of releasing urine on his own. SOOOO long story short my brother who works a LOT is single and lived next to them and my hubby and I lived next to the other grandparents so we decided to change houses (odd I know) so that I can help my grandma clean and help my grandpa with the yard work and run errands.
SO I shall be busy but I am looking forward to the physical work of moving. I have some painting to do in house too along with the moving. Anything to keep my mind and body busy is welcome these days.
Also my NEED for naps has just about gone. Feels nice to feel my age again.
Last night I asked my husband about his comment on my face and skin. I asked him why he said it or what he meant exactly. He said I looked more alive. That I didn't have this semi-sort-of spaced look on my face. That it looked less tense and a lil less crazed looking and more glowy. lol I decided after the crazed look comment I would let it drop lol.
Hugs to you all,
Jami
I am moving, did I mention that? We are moving next to my other grandparents in the next two weeks...long story short my other grandparents have just really declined in health the last year and my grandpa on that side had a really bad UTI about 3 weeks ago and he is still really weak and has a catheter with him they tried to remove but he hasn't been able to recover function of releasing urine on his own. SOOOO long story short my brother who works a LOT is single and lived next to them and my hubby and I lived next to the other grandparents so we decided to change houses (odd I know) so that I can help my grandma clean and help my grandpa with the yard work and run errands.
SO I shall be busy but I am looking forward to the physical work of moving. I have some painting to do in house too along with the moving. Anything to keep my mind and body busy is welcome these days.
Also my NEED for naps has just about gone. Feels nice to feel my age again.
Last night I asked my husband about his comment on my face and skin. I asked him why he said it or what he meant exactly. He said I looked more alive. That I didn't have this semi-sort-of spaced look on my face. That it looked less tense and a lil less crazed looking and more glowy. lol I decided after the crazed look comment I would let it drop lol.
Hugs to you all,
Jami
Jamikissezs last decade
Hey Wondering it is wonderful that you are supporting your daughter through a process that should is more common then it should be. I have only been done for 27 days but Regent (lori) has been off for months now and a few others that still check in to help us. I am sure she will post as soon as she sees this.
I can say that from talkin to a lot of people it is like most things in life, it is very different for each person :). Most I have heard have a really hard time on about day 3-4 of cold turkey. I have come a long way in the 24 days. I would say the first 14 days were the worse overall and getting plenty of rest if possible is really helpful. If she is dizzy some people have been user an herbal remedie called "chaser" to alleviate the nausea etc it is like a hangover medicine but sold at healthfood and I think some regular retailers. A couple people tried the "sea bands" wrist things for seasickness to alleviate the vertigo and nausea. Also Benadryl worked wonders for me to get into a good sleep at night. I just felt like I was never getting in and getting quality REM.
Just thought I would share what I have learned thus far from chatting with people at all stages of being Effexor free. The buzzing has pretty much stopped for me. All the really nasty things accept the bodily function side effects of being off the medicine have really subsided. I was SOOO moody and snappy for the first 18 days or so and still a few after that thusfar.
Just having someone like yourself to validate how shes feeling and that she doesnt need these meds really helps the mind body and soul.
Jami
I can say that from talkin to a lot of people it is like most things in life, it is very different for each person :). Most I have heard have a really hard time on about day 3-4 of cold turkey. I have come a long way in the 24 days. I would say the first 14 days were the worse overall and getting plenty of rest if possible is really helpful. If she is dizzy some people have been user an herbal remedie called "chaser" to alleviate the nausea etc it is like a hangover medicine but sold at healthfood and I think some regular retailers. A couple people tried the "sea bands" wrist things for seasickness to alleviate the vertigo and nausea. Also Benadryl worked wonders for me to get into a good sleep at night. I just felt like I was never getting in and getting quality REM.
Just thought I would share what I have learned thus far from chatting with people at all stages of being Effexor free. The buzzing has pretty much stopped for me. All the really nasty things accept the bodily function side effects of being off the medicine have really subsided. I was SOOO moody and snappy for the first 18 days or so and still a few after that thusfar.
Just having someone like yourself to validate how shes feeling and that she doesnt need these meds really helps the mind body and soul.
Jami
Jamikissezs last decade
I think I need to use spell check next time. LOL SORRY GUYS my post above this has horrible grammar heheh.
JAMI :)
JAMI :)
Jamikissezs last decade
Wonderingwhy, you are a loving mother. My docs (psychiatrists) told me that Effexor was good for treating anxiety, especially at higher doses. Hah! I can tell you that it was not good for my anxiety, and the higher the does the more anxious I became as well as experiencing innumerable side effects. I remember reading one psychiatrist's comments online that he could understand why the drug had been approved for depression. But when it was approved for treatment of bi-polar he was very skeptical, and when it got approved as an anti-anxiety drug he knew things were way out of whack. He doesn't prescribe it at all.
If your daughter has/had GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) there are effective meds to treat with, especially short term, as people learn new coping skills in therapy. A book I really found interesting and useful was _Worry_ by Edward M. Hallowell, a psychiatrist at Harvard Medical (I believe) who also suffers from an anxiety disorder. I also recommend _Embracing the Fear_ by two local authors (I live in Twin Cities area, Minnesota) and published by Hazelden Press. Not that either is about Effexor withdrawal but, but both put anxiety in its proper context, which is a big help.
(Yes, I'm a librarian, and I have worked in the health care arena and am a mental health care consumer.)
In response to the salt craving, I'm finding that, too. I usually buy unsalted peanut butter, but the other day I bought some lightly salted. I could tell when I started eating it that my body was loving the salt. I have also bought some Hansen's organic sports drink (a gatorade type product but without refined sugar), which I used a lot when training for running, because I find it an excellent electrolyte rebalancer. I figure when/if I hit the diarrhea stage this will be especially good.
Three more doses until I'm not ingesting any more Effexor poison. :-)
Hey, has anyone else found that certain fabrics are intolerable against their skin? I can't wear my jeans right now; the feel of denim on my legs, especially inner thighs, just drives me nuts.
Keep up the good work, all,
Laurel
If your daughter has/had GAD (generalized anxiety disorder) there are effective meds to treat with, especially short term, as people learn new coping skills in therapy. A book I really found interesting and useful was _Worry_ by Edward M. Hallowell, a psychiatrist at Harvard Medical (I believe) who also suffers from an anxiety disorder. I also recommend _Embracing the Fear_ by two local authors (I live in Twin Cities area, Minnesota) and published by Hazelden Press. Not that either is about Effexor withdrawal but, but both put anxiety in its proper context, which is a big help.
(Yes, I'm a librarian, and I have worked in the health care arena and am a mental health care consumer.)
In response to the salt craving, I'm finding that, too. I usually buy unsalted peanut butter, but the other day I bought some lightly salted. I could tell when I started eating it that my body was loving the salt. I have also bought some Hansen's organic sports drink (a gatorade type product but without refined sugar), which I used a lot when training for running, because I find it an excellent electrolyte rebalancer. I figure when/if I hit the diarrhea stage this will be especially good.
Three more doses until I'm not ingesting any more Effexor poison. :-)
Hey, has anyone else found that certain fabrics are intolerable against their skin? I can't wear my jeans right now; the feel of denim on my legs, especially inner thighs, just drives me nuts.
Keep up the good work, all,
Laurel
Naria last decade
thank you Jami & Laurel for your response...we will definetly check into the 2 books you have suggested...i spoke to Stephanie this morning (i left for work before she was awake) she was able to get a good night's sleep vs. wide awake the previous night of her day 3. she is experiencing the dizziness, brain zaps, sweats, bit of nausea, slight diarrhea & just overall lousy feeling...her only real side effect, while taking effexor was an increased need to urinate...thank God this was her "red flag" & her reason for wanting off the effexor...in all of my readings, i have never heard of anyone having this problem...since she stopped taking the effexor, her urinary needs are back to normal(lets hope it stays that way)...i am a firm believer that everything happens for a reason...had she not experienced this urinary thing...she may have stayed on this mind altering poison longer, one of her sorority sisters has been on it for about 3 years now... w my daughter was initially given a small dose of lexapro to start & the urin frequency thing began 5 days into that, so upon returning to the doctor, she was given effexor, which only helped her to concentrate a bit better at school, but all in all she should have never begun the Px....Our hope & prayers are for more public awareness of the drug (s)...with my daughter's contacts, she is a journalism/communication intern with a top television station in Chicago, she is on a mission to produce this on a news segment....thank you again for your support, our prayers & good wishes are with you all....i will be posting when my job allows me the time....
wonderingwhy last decade
How's this for an Effexor Twilight Zone moment?
One of my coworkers is developmentally disabled and really has a THING for pens. Sometimes he has up to 8 of them in his shirt pocket. His mother works in a medical clinic of some kind.
Today I noticed he only had two pens. One was a shockingly electric green opaque plastic. I couldn't help but notice it. As I got closer I saw it said _EFFEXOR XR_ in bold black letters on the clip. It was all I could do not to grab it from his pocket and throw it away. :-)
I must ask him where he got it. I hope to God he's not taking this brutal medication.
L.
One of my coworkers is developmentally disabled and really has a THING for pens. Sometimes he has up to 8 of them in his shirt pocket. His mother works in a medical clinic of some kind.
Today I noticed he only had two pens. One was a shockingly electric green opaque plastic. I couldn't help but notice it. As I got closer I saw it said _EFFEXOR XR_ in bold black letters on the clip. It was all I could do not to grab it from his pocket and throw it away. :-)
I must ask him where he got it. I hope to God he's not taking this brutal medication.
L.
Naria last decade
Happy Friday Ladies and gents!
This might be my last post for awhile and I am so sad about that. Next week I begin my computer purge on both labs. As far as internet service back to our home...we have to wait for the trees to get all their leaves on them so that we can get a proper signal. Our telephone lines are not up to speed and do not have DSL capability yet.
I want to start by saying that I would not have made it through this without all of you! It isn't always easy to go through tough times even with those we love dearest. Until technology made it possible, I had always wished that there were some way that you could just call someone, like Dr. Phil and get answers to the curves life throws our way. And now...we can do that, and I am so grateful!!!!!!!!! This is one of those..."there's a reason for everything" If for no other reason than to have helped one person get through the misery of the withdrawl, my experience was worth it!!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
You are all of great value to me!
And now back to some questions...I have often wondered about the sudden, unbelievable hunger strikes. One of the treatments that we use to use at the verterinary clinic I worked for, was...if a cat was presented as acute, one of the very first things we would do was place a bowl of food under it's chin and then give a small injection of valium i.v. The cat would instantly and ravenously eat whatever was in front of it. I am wondering if the effexor had some of the same properties as the valium and if the effect on humans was similar.
Cat...I'm sure your daughter knows all about it.
Bonnie.. I began taking St. Johns Wort a few weeks ago for my depression and I notice a big difference. So have other people. In fact, one of the staff members stopped in the lab this morning and stopped mid sentence, to tell me how beautiful my eyes were today. She said she had been noticing a change in my "step" lately, and that my eyes seemed to be making some sort of change. She also told me that when I first came here this year that my look was "scared" I know exactly what she was talking about. That was one of the things that I went through. I don't think I ever talked about it though. I have really bad eyes. (well, I have the over 40 eyes), when I started the detox, my eyes were constantly dry, red and puffy. I can remember one lady asking me if everything was okay one day, because she thought I had been crying. That is what it looked like to her, and to me everyday. That is all gone away now.
Welcome wondering...
I threw away my last script of the evil little beads on March 4th.
Everybody...
Go back to my march 3-7 posts. I listed in detail the process of my first few days without the drug in my system. I was sort of being coached by a woman named Catherine (aka...ccreal) but be careful...I mention the "O" word!!!!!!!!
One of the things that I had read about anti-depressants in general is that after taking them for awhile, some people experience high blood pressure. I think that has alot to do with the flushed, red face. Hopefully, that has been evening out for all of you. It might be a good idea for any of you that have doctor visits coming up, to mention it to your doc.
I also had not only night sweats...I think I went swimming! And what was really uncomfortable was that it was winter and I would wake soaking wet and freezing.
I am going to brag a little bit right now...ON my way to work this morning I heard a song on the radio by the Supremes. (remember them?) "Stop...in the name of Love"...anyway...2 years ago, I opened up live on stage for Mary Wilson and the Supremes and The Temptations. While I was backstage during the Supremes performance, Mary Wilson looked over and saw me standing there while she was performing that song, she pointed over at me and motioned for me to come join her on stage. Oh my God... just before that I had gone back to my dressing room, gotten out of my gown, and put my overhauls back on!!!! Whoops!!!!! Then we sang...Baby, Baby where did our love go... What an experience! The Temptations were just as cool as they appear to be on stage. They had on these incredible bright blue sequined jackets with the two towers beaded on them. My band and myself hung out back stage with them and they showed us some of their cool, slick moves as only the temptations can deliver. I have lots of pictures and they all signed my tamborine that I proudly have on display.
Sorry for that boast you guys, but today I feel alive again. Could also be that it is Friday and Grandma has the kids!!!!!!!!!!
I'm going to stop now and get this to you just in case, anybody has anything to say. I will do everything I can to get to you guys. After next week, I begin working in our deli. We booked our first catering event. A July wedding for 200. Yippee!!!!
Love you all
Regent
Oh, Oh, Oh,
My phone number...269-686-9620. Do you know how cool it is to have a new phone number? I have had the same phone number for I bet 17 years. It is almost like being on the witness protection program.
This might be my last post for awhile and I am so sad about that. Next week I begin my computer purge on both labs. As far as internet service back to our home...we have to wait for the trees to get all their leaves on them so that we can get a proper signal. Our telephone lines are not up to speed and do not have DSL capability yet.
I want to start by saying that I would not have made it through this without all of you! It isn't always easy to go through tough times even with those we love dearest. Until technology made it possible, I had always wished that there were some way that you could just call someone, like Dr. Phil and get answers to the curves life throws our way. And now...we can do that, and I am so grateful!!!!!!!!! This is one of those..."there's a reason for everything" If for no other reason than to have helped one person get through the misery of the withdrawl, my experience was worth it!!!!
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
You are all of great value to me!
And now back to some questions...I have often wondered about the sudden, unbelievable hunger strikes. One of the treatments that we use to use at the verterinary clinic I worked for, was...if a cat was presented as acute, one of the very first things we would do was place a bowl of food under it's chin and then give a small injection of valium i.v. The cat would instantly and ravenously eat whatever was in front of it. I am wondering if the effexor had some of the same properties as the valium and if the effect on humans was similar.
Cat...I'm sure your daughter knows all about it.
Bonnie.. I began taking St. Johns Wort a few weeks ago for my depression and I notice a big difference. So have other people. In fact, one of the staff members stopped in the lab this morning and stopped mid sentence, to tell me how beautiful my eyes were today. She said she had been noticing a change in my "step" lately, and that my eyes seemed to be making some sort of change. She also told me that when I first came here this year that my look was "scared" I know exactly what she was talking about. That was one of the things that I went through. I don't think I ever talked about it though. I have really bad eyes. (well, I have the over 40 eyes), when I started the detox, my eyes were constantly dry, red and puffy. I can remember one lady asking me if everything was okay one day, because she thought I had been crying. That is what it looked like to her, and to me everyday. That is all gone away now.
Welcome wondering...
I threw away my last script of the evil little beads on March 4th.
Everybody...
Go back to my march 3-7 posts. I listed in detail the process of my first few days without the drug in my system. I was sort of being coached by a woman named Catherine (aka...ccreal) but be careful...I mention the "O" word!!!!!!!!
One of the things that I had read about anti-depressants in general is that after taking them for awhile, some people experience high blood pressure. I think that has alot to do with the flushed, red face. Hopefully, that has been evening out for all of you. It might be a good idea for any of you that have doctor visits coming up, to mention it to your doc.
I also had not only night sweats...I think I went swimming! And what was really uncomfortable was that it was winter and I would wake soaking wet and freezing.
I am going to brag a little bit right now...ON my way to work this morning I heard a song on the radio by the Supremes. (remember them?) "Stop...in the name of Love"...anyway...2 years ago, I opened up live on stage for Mary Wilson and the Supremes and The Temptations. While I was backstage during the Supremes performance, Mary Wilson looked over and saw me standing there while she was performing that song, she pointed over at me and motioned for me to come join her on stage. Oh my God... just before that I had gone back to my dressing room, gotten out of my gown, and put my overhauls back on!!!! Whoops!!!!! Then we sang...Baby, Baby where did our love go... What an experience! The Temptations were just as cool as they appear to be on stage. They had on these incredible bright blue sequined jackets with the two towers beaded on them. My band and myself hung out back stage with them and they showed us some of their cool, slick moves as only the temptations can deliver. I have lots of pictures and they all signed my tamborine that I proudly have on display.
Sorry for that boast you guys, but today I feel alive again. Could also be that it is Friday and Grandma has the kids!!!!!!!!!!
I'm going to stop now and get this to you just in case, anybody has anything to say. I will do everything I can to get to you guys. After next week, I begin working in our deli. We booked our first catering event. A July wedding for 200. Yippee!!!!
Love you all
Regent
Oh, Oh, Oh,
My phone number...269-686-9620. Do you know how cool it is to have a new phone number? I have had the same phone number for I bet 17 years. It is almost like being on the witness protection program.
regent last decade
regent, i will be going back to your postings for March...be strong, sounds like you are on the right track....
wonderingwhy last decade
Hi there wondering.
I truly think what you are doing is wonderful. I am happy that your daughter has a mother like you to understand and help her through this terrible w/d. I am glad that you are trying to learn more about this poison called effexor. I wish I had never gone on it. It is a different experience for all of us, however we do experience the same effects. I just have no idea how long it will take me to be fully finished detoxing and feel normal again. I know it will happen, I just don't know when.
My best wishes to your daughter.
Good luck moving this weekend Jami, and Regent, congrats on your first catering event! Yeay! Good for you!!
And Naria hang in there! You're doing great!
I am almost done work! I can't wait! I hope everyone has a great weekend:-)
You're all in my thoughts and prayers,
take care everyone!
I truly think what you are doing is wonderful. I am happy that your daughter has a mother like you to understand and help her through this terrible w/d. I am glad that you are trying to learn more about this poison called effexor. I wish I had never gone on it. It is a different experience for all of us, however we do experience the same effects. I just have no idea how long it will take me to be fully finished detoxing and feel normal again. I know it will happen, I just don't know when.
My best wishes to your daughter.
Good luck moving this weekend Jami, and Regent, congrats on your first catering event! Yeay! Good for you!!
And Naria hang in there! You're doing great!
I am almost done work! I can't wait! I hope everyone has a great weekend:-)
You're all in my thoughts and prayers,
take care everyone!
Elena last decade
Hey wondering...
I posted a while back (page 7 or 8) about being off Effexor for almost a year. I am pretty much w/d symptom free now. I have been for about 3 months now. About the only thing I still have (sometimes) is the persistent "conversations" in my head. This is apparently an unusual side effect (and I'd be the one to get the wierd one) so not everyone has that.
As for the others, brain zaps, insomnia, etc. I have been free of them long enough that I'm not sure when they stopped completely.
I'll pray for your daughter...it's a hard struggle to get off this drug but tell her that one day she will be free.
Praying for all those who post here...
Kim
I posted a while back (page 7 or 8) about being off Effexor for almost a year. I am pretty much w/d symptom free now. I have been for about 3 months now. About the only thing I still have (sometimes) is the persistent "conversations" in my head. This is apparently an unusual side effect (and I'd be the one to get the wierd one) so not everyone has that.
As for the others, brain zaps, insomnia, etc. I have been free of them long enough that I'm not sure when they stopped completely.
I'll pray for your daughter...it's a hard struggle to get off this drug but tell her that one day she will be free.
Praying for all those who post here...
Kim
knadn_eh last decade
OHHHH guys been gone all day...too many errands to run. But I forgot to report last night I was in the kitchen peeling potatoes and out of the corner of my eye I "saw" my lil siamese cat run through down the hall. Well I started conversing with her as I always do but when she did not come running back down the hall to me I went to investigate. I opened the door to the front door after when I walked by and she came running in....SHE WASNT EVEN IN THE HOUSE LOL. I felt like an idiot :)
jami
jami
Jamikissezs last decade
Wow! I have read a lot today. Regent, you are going to be absent for awhile, good luck to you, but come back now and then, you are such an inspiration. And I think you are really cool. I don't know where you live (but if I am ever there I would like to meet you. Check in every once in a while so that those that you have given help to know where you are at.
Wondering why: I do too! You are such a great mom. After doing a lot of study in the last year on depression and all its cohorts, I realized that the only thing I really suffered from was General Anxiety Disorder (GAD) for many years just as your daughter is now suffering, I suffered maybe back to my teens. I also suffered from SAD (Seasonal Affliction Disorder) growing up. I grew up and spent most of my early years until I was 33 in New England. I alway had problems with the winter and the lack of light. I now live in SC and don't suffer the SAD as much. But I never knew what was happening, I just coped. I can't believe I did as well as I did.
Today, I made the 48 hours between the 75 mg. pills. But you know what, I took my cholesterol tonic again probably about four hours before I was supposed to take it (10:00am) and though I was zapping like crazy, it subsided. I am going to give you the recipe. It may or may not work for you.
5 oz. (10 T) apple cider vinegar, the pure kind, like Heinz or at a health food store.
4 oz. honey
Equal amounts of grape juice and apple juice to fill a gallon container.
Drink 8 oz. daily.
What the hell, it can't hurt.
The funny thing is, I thought this tonic was much too tasty so looked on the internet for something for cholesterol that was a little more exotic.
Right now I have what I call a witches' brew under my cupboard. The only thing missing is eye of newt and tongue of frog (just kidding!!) I found this tonic on the internet that was based on a medieval recipe to prevent plague. It sounded interesting and I thought I would try it. However, it had to be started at the new moon, and not to be taken until the full moon. Since I grew up on a farm and really believe in the new moon, full moon cycle, I started it two weeks ago and will have my first dose on Monday, 5/23. It really is a witches brew because it looks like pond scum, but whatever. I will try anything as long as it is vegetable in nature. Anyway, if you would like the recipe, I will post it if anyone asks. It is all natural with vegetables I cook with all the time, so I will probably like it. However, I noticed that early on in this site an herbalist recommended no acid or spicy food, this recipe is not one of them.
I have decided to copy all the stuff on this website since I have so much trouble reading and put in on Word.
I'm sure I've missed alot tonight, but maybe I'll have time tomorrow. LOL and all that stuff. (I am not an internet guru)
Wondering why: I do too! You are such a great mom. After doing a lot of study in the last year on depression and all its cohorts, I realized that the only thing I really suffered from was General Anxiety Disorder (GAD) for many years just as your daughter is now suffering, I suffered maybe back to my teens. I also suffered from SAD (Seasonal Affliction Disorder) growing up. I grew up and spent most of my early years until I was 33 in New England. I alway had problems with the winter and the lack of light. I now live in SC and don't suffer the SAD as much. But I never knew what was happening, I just coped. I can't believe I did as well as I did.
Today, I made the 48 hours between the 75 mg. pills. But you know what, I took my cholesterol tonic again probably about four hours before I was supposed to take it (10:00am) and though I was zapping like crazy, it subsided. I am going to give you the recipe. It may or may not work for you.
5 oz. (10 T) apple cider vinegar, the pure kind, like Heinz or at a health food store.
4 oz. honey
Equal amounts of grape juice and apple juice to fill a gallon container.
Drink 8 oz. daily.
What the hell, it can't hurt.
The funny thing is, I thought this tonic was much too tasty so looked on the internet for something for cholesterol that was a little more exotic.
Right now I have what I call a witches' brew under my cupboard. The only thing missing is eye of newt and tongue of frog (just kidding!!) I found this tonic on the internet that was based on a medieval recipe to prevent plague. It sounded interesting and I thought I would try it. However, it had to be started at the new moon, and not to be taken until the full moon. Since I grew up on a farm and really believe in the new moon, full moon cycle, I started it two weeks ago and will have my first dose on Monday, 5/23. It really is a witches brew because it looks like pond scum, but whatever. I will try anything as long as it is vegetable in nature. Anyway, if you would like the recipe, I will post it if anyone asks. It is all natural with vegetables I cook with all the time, so I will probably like it. However, I noticed that early on in this site an herbalist recommended no acid or spicy food, this recipe is not one of them.
I have decided to copy all the stuff on this website since I have so much trouble reading and put in on Word.
I'm sure I've missed alot tonight, but maybe I'll have time tomorrow. LOL and all that stuff. (I am not an internet guru)
catgranny last decade
Hi all,
Wondering, you are wonderful. Being there for your daughter will help her more than any drug at this time.
I was told by my treating Dr. that effexor acts at two levels, one for depression and the other 150mg+ dose for anxiety. I was at 300mg primarily for serious depression. I can't say that Effexor didn't help me when I was at my lowest at the beginning. The work with the physchitrist helped the most though. I was depressed since childhood after my mother's sudden death and he helped to erase some old tapes I had laid down as a child....anyway about today!
Today, was the seventh day off the chemical for me. Better today then yesterday. I worked an 11 hour day and came home feeling like I could do more aroun the house. What a change from the past. Only a few minor short dizzy's and still getting the eye chasing thing but I understand it. No big ZAP's.
Still have the bloating, it's real uncomfortable. Someone please stick a fork in me I'd feel so much better :)
Wondering, those early days are are the hardest and only a few days past for me being one week effexor free. I feel SOOOO much better now. I love that I dream, my emotions have flowered, there is a spring in my walk, and a freshness in my face.
On the other hand it's like at an instant an emotion can errupt inside you for no reason. It's ok though. Sometime, it's the littlest of thing, she'll just have to breathe and understand what is going on chemically inside her brain. SHE is not doing it, the w/d of the chemical from her brain is causing 'vacancies' in the brain and it's doing everything it can to adjust. She needs to understand and not get down on herself for her brain trying to find a new level again.
She is strong for getting off of it. Tomorrow WILL be better. Drink lots of ice water for the hot sweats and try to keep busy.
As for the bloated belly, has anyone ever tried a sulphur tincture (homeopathic dose)? I was thinking of looking into some chinese herbal remebies (chinese herb's saved my grandmother's life/family during the great flu epidemic) along with a hepatic cleansing regime that I've read about here. How long does it take to go away, it's very uncomfortable.
Hugs to all,
Melissa
Wondering, you are wonderful. Being there for your daughter will help her more than any drug at this time.
I was told by my treating Dr. that effexor acts at two levels, one for depression and the other 150mg+ dose for anxiety. I was at 300mg primarily for serious depression. I can't say that Effexor didn't help me when I was at my lowest at the beginning. The work with the physchitrist helped the most though. I was depressed since childhood after my mother's sudden death and he helped to erase some old tapes I had laid down as a child....anyway about today!
Today, was the seventh day off the chemical for me. Better today then yesterday. I worked an 11 hour day and came home feeling like I could do more aroun the house. What a change from the past. Only a few minor short dizzy's and still getting the eye chasing thing but I understand it. No big ZAP's.
Still have the bloating, it's real uncomfortable. Someone please stick a fork in me I'd feel so much better :)
Wondering, those early days are are the hardest and only a few days past for me being one week effexor free. I feel SOOOO much better now. I love that I dream, my emotions have flowered, there is a spring in my walk, and a freshness in my face.
On the other hand it's like at an instant an emotion can errupt inside you for no reason. It's ok though. Sometime, it's the littlest of thing, she'll just have to breathe and understand what is going on chemically inside her brain. SHE is not doing it, the w/d of the chemical from her brain is causing 'vacancies' in the brain and it's doing everything it can to adjust. She needs to understand and not get down on herself for her brain trying to find a new level again.
She is strong for getting off of it. Tomorrow WILL be better. Drink lots of ice water for the hot sweats and try to keep busy.
As for the bloated belly, has anyone ever tried a sulphur tincture (homeopathic dose)? I was thinking of looking into some chinese herbal remebies (chinese herb's saved my grandmother's life/family during the great flu epidemic) along with a hepatic cleansing regime that I've read about here. How long does it take to go away, it's very uncomfortable.
Hugs to all,
Melissa
melissa14 last decade
hi wondering---i have been off since the beginning of this year. The zaps and diziness have gone, but my emotions are still on a rollercoaster.
melissa: the bloated thing stayed with me until it seems about three weeks ago. I don't know if the fact that I took long walks every other day, and did about 250 crunches. Another thing which may have helped is that once in a while I would drink "dieters tea". It has senna which acts as a laxative.
melissa: the bloated thing stayed with me until it seems about three weeks ago. I don't know if the fact that I took long walks every other day, and did about 250 crunches. Another thing which may have helped is that once in a while I would drink "dieters tea". It has senna which acts as a laxative.
endlessnight last decade
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