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Good morning everyone.
Again a warm welcome to those who are new to this forum.
Hydro thank you for the advise. Lysette, I agree with you wholeheartedly that you should be free of Effexor. Just take your time, and take some tips from our past posts. We have all experienced these awful side effects, but now that we are aware of why it is happening and what it is, we can focus on getting better. Slowly but surely it will happen.
Sheila, you are doing so well! I would give yourself some more time to adjust to the 4.5,(maybe another week?) and then your on your way! Maybe it will help more if you are more adjusted to the 4.5.mg. Of course it is up to you, you could even stop right now. It depends on how you feel and your body feels. It doesn't shock me that you are feeling so spaced out. Just try to get as much rest as you can, and try taking some ginger. That was so helpful to me. It does get better! I am on day 17 no Effexor, and I feel so good, even compared to last week. The zapping, nausea and headaches are pretty much gone. So just a heads up, it will be awful for a little while, but there is a bright side.
Bonnie, the move was HELL. I was a wreak, and I am still trying to adjust to my new surroundings. I wake up at night and wonder what the hells going on! lol! But now we are pretty much settled and we can relax a bit. I did have a couple of Anxiety moments, but hey, I feel better now. It comes and goes. But I don't care. I am Effexor free, and that's all that matters to me. SIX FEET UNDER! LOL! I agree! I don't want to move for a long time! Good God! Oh and you had mentioned as well as Sheila that you mistake words, I have had a terrible time with that! I have had no luck articulating to my boss. That is embarressing. Good thing she just laughs. I felt as though my tongue was not behaving and saying words I wasn't even thinking! I feel better now, but I still have some slip ups.
Anyway, I hope you all are doing well, newbies as well as oldies!
Hugs and prayers,
xoElena
Again a warm welcome to those who are new to this forum.
Hydro thank you for the advise. Lysette, I agree with you wholeheartedly that you should be free of Effexor. Just take your time, and take some tips from our past posts. We have all experienced these awful side effects, but now that we are aware of why it is happening and what it is, we can focus on getting better. Slowly but surely it will happen.
Sheila, you are doing so well! I would give yourself some more time to adjust to the 4.5,(maybe another week?) and then your on your way! Maybe it will help more if you are more adjusted to the 4.5.mg. Of course it is up to you, you could even stop right now. It depends on how you feel and your body feels. It doesn't shock me that you are feeling so spaced out. Just try to get as much rest as you can, and try taking some ginger. That was so helpful to me. It does get better! I am on day 17 no Effexor, and I feel so good, even compared to last week. The zapping, nausea and headaches are pretty much gone. So just a heads up, it will be awful for a little while, but there is a bright side.
Bonnie, the move was HELL. I was a wreak, and I am still trying to adjust to my new surroundings. I wake up at night and wonder what the hells going on! lol! But now we are pretty much settled and we can relax a bit. I did have a couple of Anxiety moments, but hey, I feel better now. It comes and goes. But I don't care. I am Effexor free, and that's all that matters to me. SIX FEET UNDER! LOL! I agree! I don't want to move for a long time! Good God! Oh and you had mentioned as well as Sheila that you mistake words, I have had a terrible time with that! I have had no luck articulating to my boss. That is embarressing. Good thing she just laughs. I felt as though my tongue was not behaving and saying words I wasn't even thinking! I feel better now, but I still have some slip ups.
Anyway, I hope you all are doing well, newbies as well as oldies!
Hugs and prayers,
xoElena
Elena last decade
Elena, glad to hear your move went good. I know it is hell.
You sound like you are adjusting quicker than I did.
I didn't know where to start unpacking. I just left the boxes sitting for a few days.
It is very over whelming.
It is so hard to think of the words you want to say sometimes. I can see and feel them, but they just won't come out. It is getting better. Today, I feel a little strange again. I am not sleeping very good. I think that has a lot to do with how I feel.
So glad you are feeling better.
I don't know if I ever knew why you went on the effexor in the beginning.
I have always had some issues with depression. It runs in my family. My mom was always depressed and all her sisters.
I guess at my age, I will always have the problem and have to take something. I know that sounds strange to some people, but when it is genetic what do you do? I have nothing to be depressed about. My husband is a wonderful person, I live beisde my daughter and grankids and I don't work (outside of my home). I did for 30 years, but when I got married I was able to quit 5 years ago. Of course, sometimes I have to much time on my hands.
Oh well, sorry for rambling.
Have a great day.
Bonnie
You sound like you are adjusting quicker than I did.
I didn't know where to start unpacking. I just left the boxes sitting for a few days.
It is very over whelming.
It is so hard to think of the words you want to say sometimes. I can see and feel them, but they just won't come out. It is getting better. Today, I feel a little strange again. I am not sleeping very good. I think that has a lot to do with how I feel.
So glad you are feeling better.
I don't know if I ever knew why you went on the effexor in the beginning.
I have always had some issues with depression. It runs in my family. My mom was always depressed and all her sisters.
I guess at my age, I will always have the problem and have to take something. I know that sounds strange to some people, but when it is genetic what do you do? I have nothing to be depressed about. My husband is a wonderful person, I live beisde my daughter and grankids and I don't work (outside of my home). I did for 30 years, but when I got married I was able to quit 5 years ago. Of course, sometimes I have to much time on my hands.
Oh well, sorry for rambling.
Have a great day.
Bonnie
BonnieR last decade
Bonnie,
Don't ever be sorry for rambling. We do still have some boxes sitting around, but the only reason there isn't more of them is because of my boyfriend who went turbo when we got in there. He just wanted it to be done. I found it kinda funny actually. Boy was he busy!
Anyway, regarding your depression, don't be hard on yourself. Sometimes this happens. Even if all is well and you know you have no reason to be sad, you just are. But that's okay. Your husband and family and friends all love you and support you no matter what. You will get through this. What did you say you are still taking? And have you thought of using just st. johns wort and vitamen b? Or has that been tried already?
I myself was put on Effexor after my first stomach surgery, and after my boyfriend, and my 3 bestfriends went away to different cities. Seperation anxiety I suppose along with stress of the body. I was already a worrier. It was a terrible time in my life. I lost 20 pounds from my violent anxiety and I was already petite at the time. (Now not so much! LOL) So after trying to talk to someone, a therapist, who did absolutley s*** all for me, I was advised by my doctor to try a couple of different perscriptions. Effexor worked the best at the time. But as the years went on, I just started feeling, not right. And the weight gain was just depressing me so much I felt puffy and bloated ALL the time. I didn't want this crutch anymore, so I took the initiative and started getting off it. When I first tried it, I was shocked to feel such terrible w/ds, but I didn't know what was happening. Then I found the forum and so on and so forth.
So that is my tale. I am still a worrier, and I do get anxiety at times. But that is who I am and I am going to research some ways to deal with it with meditation and positive thinking. Maybe it will work.
So yeah, now I was the one who rambled. My turn to apologise.
I'm sorry that you are feeling low. Maybe some rest will make you feel better.
Have you been exercising with a walk or bike ride? What about drinking lots of water?Have you been taking any vitamins? I take vitamin b
complex, vitamin c, essencial fatty acids, and a multi, and I am feeling a positive difference. Anyway those are just suggestions that sometimes help me out.
Feel free to write anytime,
being a worrier I always have something on my mind and it helps me to write about it.
Good to talk to you Bonnie: )
Hugs and prayers,
xo Elena
Don't ever be sorry for rambling. We do still have some boxes sitting around, but the only reason there isn't more of them is because of my boyfriend who went turbo when we got in there. He just wanted it to be done. I found it kinda funny actually. Boy was he busy!
Anyway, regarding your depression, don't be hard on yourself. Sometimes this happens. Even if all is well and you know you have no reason to be sad, you just are. But that's okay. Your husband and family and friends all love you and support you no matter what. You will get through this. What did you say you are still taking? And have you thought of using just st. johns wort and vitamen b? Or has that been tried already?
I myself was put on Effexor after my first stomach surgery, and after my boyfriend, and my 3 bestfriends went away to different cities. Seperation anxiety I suppose along with stress of the body. I was already a worrier. It was a terrible time in my life. I lost 20 pounds from my violent anxiety and I was already petite at the time. (Now not so much! LOL) So after trying to talk to someone, a therapist, who did absolutley s*** all for me, I was advised by my doctor to try a couple of different perscriptions. Effexor worked the best at the time. But as the years went on, I just started feeling, not right. And the weight gain was just depressing me so much I felt puffy and bloated ALL the time. I didn't want this crutch anymore, so I took the initiative and started getting off it. When I first tried it, I was shocked to feel such terrible w/ds, but I didn't know what was happening. Then I found the forum and so on and so forth.
So that is my tale. I am still a worrier, and I do get anxiety at times. But that is who I am and I am going to research some ways to deal with it with meditation and positive thinking. Maybe it will work.
So yeah, now I was the one who rambled. My turn to apologise.
I'm sorry that you are feeling low. Maybe some rest will make you feel better.
Have you been exercising with a walk or bike ride? What about drinking lots of water?Have you been taking any vitamins? I take vitamin b
complex, vitamin c, essencial fatty acids, and a multi, and I am feeling a positive difference. Anyway those are just suggestions that sometimes help me out.
Feel free to write anytime,
being a worrier I always have something on my mind and it helps me to write about it.
Good to talk to you Bonnie: )
Hugs and prayers,
xo Elena
Elena last decade
Elena I am getting ready to go have lunch with a friend that I worked with for 25 years. I just wanted to tell you that I enjoy talking with you. I feel like we are old friends. LOL!
I do take b-12, vit. C, calcium and also wellbutrin and zoloft.
I have not tried St. Johns, because I have always been on and antidepressant. Well, not always, but you know since I have been medicated.
Maybe I am having aspartame withdrawls. They say you can become addicted to that too.
I guess just like caffiene. I really don't drink caffiene.
I am drinking lots more water, because I am not drinking sodas any more. Boy, do I miss those.
I know things will get better for me. It is great that you sound so up beat now. I am happy for you.
Take care and I will be talking with you soon.
Hello to eveyone else on here.
Hope to hear from others soon
I really wish Jami and Regent would let us know how they are doing. I guess no news is good news.
Hugs,
Bonnie
I do take b-12, vit. C, calcium and also wellbutrin and zoloft.
I have not tried St. Johns, because I have always been on and antidepressant. Well, not always, but you know since I have been medicated.
Maybe I am having aspartame withdrawls. They say you can become addicted to that too.
I guess just like caffiene. I really don't drink caffiene.
I am drinking lots more water, because I am not drinking sodas any more. Boy, do I miss those.
I know things will get better for me. It is great that you sound so up beat now. I am happy for you.
Take care and I will be talking with you soon.
Hello to eveyone else on here.
Hope to hear from others soon
I really wish Jami and Regent would let us know how they are doing. I guess no news is good news.
Hugs,
Bonnie
BonnieR last decade
Good morning to everyone,
I so apreciate this site I copied some of the posts and e-mailed them to my husband. I switched a couple #'s around on a fax number and he kind of got angry not angry but irritated saying that he could of sent his personal info to a stranger. So it was nice to read posts of people doing the same. I havent driven for about 4 days and last night my kids wanted to go see Extreme Home Makover (they are in my town) So I got on the road and scared myself, I felt drunk and that I should not drive. I would never be able to pass one of those DUI tests. So until this is gone out of my system I can not drive with them. I do have to drive 45 min for a CAT Scan today, but by myself. pray for me.
We moved 3 months ago, it takes time to even adjust. I feel like I got a depressed and I am usually a very happy person. We moved into a bigger and nicer home, nicer neighborhood my kids are happy, but I got down. So good luck to you. Keep that boyfriend of yours working. lol.
Talk to you later,
Sadie
I so apreciate this site I copied some of the posts and e-mailed them to my husband. I switched a couple #'s around on a fax number and he kind of got angry not angry but irritated saying that he could of sent his personal info to a stranger. So it was nice to read posts of people doing the same. I havent driven for about 4 days and last night my kids wanted to go see Extreme Home Makover (they are in my town) So I got on the road and scared myself, I felt drunk and that I should not drive. I would never be able to pass one of those DUI tests. So until this is gone out of my system I can not drive with them. I do have to drive 45 min for a CAT Scan today, but by myself. pray for me.
We moved 3 months ago, it takes time to even adjust. I feel like I got a depressed and I am usually a very happy person. We moved into a bigger and nicer home, nicer neighborhood my kids are happy, but I got down. So good luck to you. Keep that boyfriend of yours working. lol.
Talk to you later,
Sadie
sadie last decade
Good morning, all,
Welcomes to the new kids on the bulletin board. It looks like everyone is having the E-experience appropriate to where they are. Blasted old drug anyway. I had lunch with two friends yesterday and talked to another friend last week who had all taken Effexor and stopped taking it in the last year. Not one of them recalls having had any withdrawal problems with it. Of course, not one of them denies that what I've experienced is real.
10 weeks off the stuff. I'm focusing on "brain healing" activities right now, such as standing on one leg, first with eyes open then eyes shut and walking on curbs to challenge my balance. I am feeling brain power returning and actually have moments of verbal articulation. :-)
I'm keeping at the meditation, so let me recommend Jon Kabat-Zinn's _Full Catastrophe Living_ as a very, very useful book. I just received the CDs in the mail today that go along with the book and look forward to working with them.
I'm sending love and energy to all, especially to Steph today as she returns to Iowa and school. Keep drinking your water and taking your supplements, everybody. :-)
Big hug,
Laurel
Welcomes to the new kids on the bulletin board. It looks like everyone is having the E-experience appropriate to where they are. Blasted old drug anyway. I had lunch with two friends yesterday and talked to another friend last week who had all taken Effexor and stopped taking it in the last year. Not one of them recalls having had any withdrawal problems with it. Of course, not one of them denies that what I've experienced is real.
10 weeks off the stuff. I'm focusing on "brain healing" activities right now, such as standing on one leg, first with eyes open then eyes shut and walking on curbs to challenge my balance. I am feeling brain power returning and actually have moments of verbal articulation. :-)
I'm keeping at the meditation, so let me recommend Jon Kabat-Zinn's _Full Catastrophe Living_ as a very, very useful book. I just received the CDs in the mail today that go along with the book and look forward to working with them.
I'm sending love and energy to all, especially to Steph today as she returns to Iowa and school. Keep drinking your water and taking your supplements, everybody. :-)
Big hug,
Laurel
Naria last decade
Laurel,
Thank you for letting us know that brain function acually does return. It is day 22 for me, and I am still getting headaches and zaps, along with depleted energy and some moodiness and touchy feelings.On the upside, I seem to have an aversion to alcohol , which I definitely see as a benefit.
I have also been reading (and practicing) from a book called 'The wisdom of the Enneagram-The complete guide to Psychological and Spiritual Growth for the Nine Personality Types'. I figure if I am going to be anti depressant free, I'd better start working on the old gray matter. I will also be looking up the book you recommen on meditation.
Elena, glad your move went well. It's all behind you now.
All the best,
Love
Coleen
Thank you for letting us know that brain function acually does return. It is day 22 for me, and I am still getting headaches and zaps, along with depleted energy and some moodiness and touchy feelings.On the upside, I seem to have an aversion to alcohol , which I definitely see as a benefit.
I have also been reading (and practicing) from a book called 'The wisdom of the Enneagram-The complete guide to Psychological and Spiritual Growth for the Nine Personality Types'. I figure if I am going to be anti depressant free, I'd better start working on the old gray matter. I will also be looking up the book you recommen on meditation.
Elena, glad your move went well. It's all behind you now.
All the best,
Love
Coleen
Coco Montoya last decade
My hubby opened the kitchen cupboard where I keep all the medicines and first aid stuff this morning. He said, What is this, a blanking drug store? (My hubby uses colorful language, comes from growing up in a rough neighborhood and working on the docks as a teenager) I only take three prescriptions, blood pressure, Celebrex and the E and that will be gone soon (hooray). All the rest are supplements!
Elena, glad your move went well and now you can sit back and rest a while. I dont plan to drop the E until 8/20. We are going to Denver next week (another business trip for Hubby). You guys much think I travel a lot. I do. When our daughter went off to college I started going on business trips with him and we would take a weekend and do touristy stuff after his business was finished. Ive gotten to see a lot of the country this way. Our daughter even joins us now and then. We leave Sunday and she meets us there on Wednesday. I have to work the following week and after the way I felt at work yesterday, Ill think Ill wait.
Remember I told you about my close friend who thought her husband had cancer. The diagnosis came in last Friday, chemo started today. A metastasized lung cancer that is very aggressive and they dont give him much time unless the chemo works. He wants to give up. She is a basket case. I drove her around on errands this morning because she was in no shape to drive. Her family is helping to take care of him. I have taken over some of her volunteer responsibilities. She is the welcome representative for our homeowners association and I will do that for her. The least I can do. They are trying to get everything in order now.
With this last drop to 4.5, I find I cannot drink my wine without getting very tipsy and VERY forgetful. I wrote my last post in which I said I would not sermonize on aspartame on Saturday night intending to finish it and post it the next day (did it in Word). When I went onto my computer Sunday afternoon, I finished it and then I discovered I had already posted it. I do NOT remember doing that. Anyway, I had two more paragraphs to add which are:
One of the ingredients of aspartame is methanol, aka wood grain alcohol, the kind you go blind on. Also, the methanol breaks down when heated above 86 degrees into formaldehyde. Do you remember the Gulf War in 1991. Cases and cases of soda were sent to our soldiers, including diet beverages. Sitting out in the 100+ heat. Did they (the government) ever find the cause of the Gulf War Syndrome that so many of our military came back with? That is one of the theories about aspartame poisoning that has kept popping up in my research. Formaldehyde is fine in your body, as long as you are dead.
Also, aspartame should not be used by children. Either before birth or afterwards. It can cause developmental problems and seizures in newborns and ADHD in children. Most of the childrens chewable vitamins have aspartame in them. Look for the words contains phenolalanine. No wonder we have so many kids on Ritalin. Between aspartame and sugar, they are doomed. I could say a lot more, but if you are interested, look up the website aspartamekills.comand browse some of the links on it. But I kind of think a lot of my problems over the years may be related.
Welcome to all our new people. Hang in there, we're a very supportive group.
Love, Sheila
Elena, glad your move went well and now you can sit back and rest a while. I dont plan to drop the E until 8/20. We are going to Denver next week (another business trip for Hubby). You guys much think I travel a lot. I do. When our daughter went off to college I started going on business trips with him and we would take a weekend and do touristy stuff after his business was finished. Ive gotten to see a lot of the country this way. Our daughter even joins us now and then. We leave Sunday and she meets us there on Wednesday. I have to work the following week and after the way I felt at work yesterday, Ill think Ill wait.
Remember I told you about my close friend who thought her husband had cancer. The diagnosis came in last Friday, chemo started today. A metastasized lung cancer that is very aggressive and they dont give him much time unless the chemo works. He wants to give up. She is a basket case. I drove her around on errands this morning because she was in no shape to drive. Her family is helping to take care of him. I have taken over some of her volunteer responsibilities. She is the welcome representative for our homeowners association and I will do that for her. The least I can do. They are trying to get everything in order now.
With this last drop to 4.5, I find I cannot drink my wine without getting very tipsy and VERY forgetful. I wrote my last post in which I said I would not sermonize on aspartame on Saturday night intending to finish it and post it the next day (did it in Word). When I went onto my computer Sunday afternoon, I finished it and then I discovered I had already posted it. I do NOT remember doing that. Anyway, I had two more paragraphs to add which are:
One of the ingredients of aspartame is methanol, aka wood grain alcohol, the kind you go blind on. Also, the methanol breaks down when heated above 86 degrees into formaldehyde. Do you remember the Gulf War in 1991. Cases and cases of soda were sent to our soldiers, including diet beverages. Sitting out in the 100+ heat. Did they (the government) ever find the cause of the Gulf War Syndrome that so many of our military came back with? That is one of the theories about aspartame poisoning that has kept popping up in my research. Formaldehyde is fine in your body, as long as you are dead.
Also, aspartame should not be used by children. Either before birth or afterwards. It can cause developmental problems and seizures in newborns and ADHD in children. Most of the childrens chewable vitamins have aspartame in them. Look for the words contains phenolalanine. No wonder we have so many kids on Ritalin. Between aspartame and sugar, they are doomed. I could say a lot more, but if you are interested, look up the website aspartamekills.comand browse some of the links on it. But I kind of think a lot of my problems over the years may be related.
Welcome to all our new people. Hang in there, we're a very supportive group.
Love, Sheila
catgranny last decade
I am not having a good night, when does the constant feeling of tired go away. I feel like I have been tired for all of my life, initially tired from the depression, then tired from the drugs used to treat the depression and now tired because of the withdrawal plus still being addicted to Effexor. Tonight my husband is going to be home late because he has an appointment, the kids just played for one hour while I slept on the couch, I woke up in time to put them to bed and to tell them that I am too tired to read a bedtime story. Has anybody gotten any suggestions on getting my energy back. I am taking Omega 3 and B Complex which is helping in waves but mostly during the day. Oh, my last reduction in meds was 2.5 weeks ago from 112.5 down to 75.
Just knowing you guys are out there and going through the same things is helping, at least I know I am not totally crazy.
Kerry
Just knowing you guys are out there and going through the same things is helping, at least I know I am not totally crazy.
Kerry
mum2two last decade
Kerry,
I wish I had some sound advice for you, but I really don't all I can say is that I relate with the being to tired to be there for your little kids. My withdrawls are so intense right now that I wish I could just sleep (but life can't stop when you are a mom). I feel drunk and I do not feel like a responsible adult. I feel insane! Everyone just says take it slow.
Sadie
I wish I had some sound advice for you, but I really don't all I can say is that I relate with the being to tired to be there for your little kids. My withdrawls are so intense right now that I wish I could just sleep (but life can't stop when you are a mom). I feel drunk and I do not feel like a responsible adult. I feel insane! Everyone just says take it slow.
Sadie
sadie last decade
Hi Kerry, I just wanted to tell that when I first started weaning from effexor, My pschy.(sp) told me to take my regular dose one day and the new dose the next day for 2 weeks and then go to new dose completely. This really helped me, because in the beginning I did not have any symptons at all. I started weaning in January and have just been 11 days effexor free. So you can see how slow I went. I was on 150 in the beginning. I was stay at my new dose for as long as I felt comfortable with it. I know it is hard for you and some others with small children to take care of. I am sorry. I wish I could help, but maybe if you try this method you will feel better. Nothing beats a try but a failure. You can always go back your way. I didnt start having bad problmes until I got below 37.5.
Hope this helps you some.
Bonnie
Hope this helps you some.
Bonnie
BonnieR last decade
By the way, where is everyone today? I hope all is well. I did sleep better last night and feel better today.
Hope to hear from you all soon.
Bonnie
Hope to hear from you all soon.
Bonnie
BonnieR last decade
Hi everyone,
It is a very humid hot day here and last night was brutal. The apartment was ridiculously hot. I only got around 3 hours sleep. And now that I am in an air conditioned office I could just fall asleep now that I am at a comfortable temperature. lol Oh well. We have our Volleyball league tonight and I am hoping it will cool down a bit for that. So how is everyone's day going? I had a zap or two this morning! I was really shocked by it because I hadn't had one in a while. I had almost forgotten the discomfort! That was it though. I have been feeling better, but I notice I am still quite emotional. I feel tears well up in my eyes at times that I know I shouldn't take it so seriously. But I can't help it! I usually suck it up and it goes away.
Laurel it was so great to hear from you. I am very happy for you that you are making progress. You sound so much better! Good for you! Please write again soon to let us know how you are!
Coleen I am with you on strengthening the mind after all of what we have gone through. I believe it will be good for us. I am reading alot to help me improve my physical and mental health.
Sheila I was reading more about aspartame and
"OH - MY - GOD" it scared the crap out of me! I really do NOT want to ingest any of that anymore. Forget it. Is there a complete list of all the foods aspartame is in? Or is that even possible?
Oh and by the way, it is very good of you to be there for your friend and I am sure she appreciates it so much. I'm sorry that she and her family are going through this.
Kerry I understand you must be feeling down, but try not to let it get you down. This process requires time, unfortunate-but true. Your body is adjusting slowly. You are at 75 now, that is a good start. Give it some time Kerry and you will be alright. Go through the posts, and take some tips. Ginger helped me, Epsom salt baths with hydrogen peroxide,
drinking lots of water and some light exercise. Let us know how you are doing with the process.
Sadie, have you tried the chaser, or ginger tablets yet? Maybe that would help you function better. This must be hard for those of you with children, but just remember that you are doing this for them too. So that you can be there for them and feel like yourselves again. Don't beat yourselves up because you feel sluggish or sleepy. You will make it up to them soon enough!
Hey Bonnie, how are you today? Glad to hear that you have been keeping yourself busy. But I am sorry to hear that you are not feeling the best.I am with ya on cutting out the diet drinks and pop. I haven't been touching them lately. But it is hard to know every product that has aspartame in it!!
It's so true though, I do feel like we are old friends as well! lol It's very nice: )
It is good that you are taking the B12, B is good for anxiety/ depression. I havent tried St Johns Wort either because of the E. But now that I am off, maybe I will just stick to my vitamens. How do you feel not being on E? Will you eventually get off the other two perscriptions? Or do you feel better on them? I was just wondering about that the other day. I wondered if you had mentioned that you wanted to get off of those too. I know you had mentioned your family members having depression aswell. My memory is S**t these days(I know where you're coming from Sheila!!), my apologies if you have mentioned it before.
Anyway whatever makes you feel the best, I support it.
Talk to you soon!
Take care all,
Hugs and Prayers
xoElena
It is a very humid hot day here and last night was brutal. The apartment was ridiculously hot. I only got around 3 hours sleep. And now that I am in an air conditioned office I could just fall asleep now that I am at a comfortable temperature. lol Oh well. We have our Volleyball league tonight and I am hoping it will cool down a bit for that. So how is everyone's day going? I had a zap or two this morning! I was really shocked by it because I hadn't had one in a while. I had almost forgotten the discomfort! That was it though. I have been feeling better, but I notice I am still quite emotional. I feel tears well up in my eyes at times that I know I shouldn't take it so seriously. But I can't help it! I usually suck it up and it goes away.
Laurel it was so great to hear from you. I am very happy for you that you are making progress. You sound so much better! Good for you! Please write again soon to let us know how you are!
Coleen I am with you on strengthening the mind after all of what we have gone through. I believe it will be good for us. I am reading alot to help me improve my physical and mental health.
Sheila I was reading more about aspartame and
"OH - MY - GOD" it scared the crap out of me! I really do NOT want to ingest any of that anymore. Forget it. Is there a complete list of all the foods aspartame is in? Or is that even possible?
Oh and by the way, it is very good of you to be there for your friend and I am sure she appreciates it so much. I'm sorry that she and her family are going through this.
Kerry I understand you must be feeling down, but try not to let it get you down. This process requires time, unfortunate-but true. Your body is adjusting slowly. You are at 75 now, that is a good start. Give it some time Kerry and you will be alright. Go through the posts, and take some tips. Ginger helped me, Epsom salt baths with hydrogen peroxide,
drinking lots of water and some light exercise. Let us know how you are doing with the process.
Sadie, have you tried the chaser, or ginger tablets yet? Maybe that would help you function better. This must be hard for those of you with children, but just remember that you are doing this for them too. So that you can be there for them and feel like yourselves again. Don't beat yourselves up because you feel sluggish or sleepy. You will make it up to them soon enough!
Hey Bonnie, how are you today? Glad to hear that you have been keeping yourself busy. But I am sorry to hear that you are not feeling the best.I am with ya on cutting out the diet drinks and pop. I haven't been touching them lately. But it is hard to know every product that has aspartame in it!!
It's so true though, I do feel like we are old friends as well! lol It's very nice: )
It is good that you are taking the B12, B is good for anxiety/ depression. I havent tried St Johns Wort either because of the E. But now that I am off, maybe I will just stick to my vitamens. How do you feel not being on E? Will you eventually get off the other two perscriptions? Or do you feel better on them? I was just wondering about that the other day. I wondered if you had mentioned that you wanted to get off of those too. I know you had mentioned your family members having depression aswell. My memory is S**t these days(I know where you're coming from Sheila!!), my apologies if you have mentioned it before.
Anyway whatever makes you feel the best, I support it.
Talk to you soon!
Take care all,
Hugs and Prayers
xoElena
Elena last decade
My goodness, I have opened a can of worms with the aspartame issue. With what I heard and learned, we should all be concerned, however,
This site is about the withdrawal of Effexor. We must not confuse our new people with this fact. They need help getting off E, not aspartame. If they learned a little or a lot about A along the way, that is good, it means they are committed to a healthier drug-free lifestyle..
Naria, I want to know more about this brain healing. Some of the things you do I have already done, but since I am not totally off E, Im not sure they are working. My yoga helps me a lot but what exactly are you doing?
Kerry, I feel so bad for you, babies you need to take care of, besides yourself. What are you taking (besides the E), I havent had a chance to go back and look. Close your eyes and think about you what have to do (children cannot wait), what you want to do, and what you are about to do. List priorities. Email us to help with decisions. We may not be the best judges of the situations, but we are dealing with the same stuff you are going through. Good luck.
Elena, there are sites out there that list what stuff has aspartame in it. Tomorrow I will go back and find it, if you havent already.
I just got a call from my friend that the MD has taken her husband off chemo, his cancer is Stage 4 and there is no hope. We are just waiting at this point. I am very down about this, she is one of my dearest friends and he is a really wonderful guy.. He deserved my friend and they have had a very happy marriage, 13 years.. (Second for both).
Talk to you later, Love, Sheila
This site is about the withdrawal of Effexor. We must not confuse our new people with this fact. They need help getting off E, not aspartame. If they learned a little or a lot about A along the way, that is good, it means they are committed to a healthier drug-free lifestyle..
Naria, I want to know more about this brain healing. Some of the things you do I have already done, but since I am not totally off E, Im not sure they are working. My yoga helps me a lot but what exactly are you doing?
Kerry, I feel so bad for you, babies you need to take care of, besides yourself. What are you taking (besides the E), I havent had a chance to go back and look. Close your eyes and think about you what have to do (children cannot wait), what you want to do, and what you are about to do. List priorities. Email us to help with decisions. We may not be the best judges of the situations, but we are dealing with the same stuff you are going through. Good luck.
Elena, there are sites out there that list what stuff has aspartame in it. Tomorrow I will go back and find it, if you havent already.
I just got a call from my friend that the MD has taken her husband off chemo, his cancer is Stage 4 and there is no hope. We are just waiting at this point. I am very down about this, she is one of my dearest friends and he is a really wonderful guy.. He deserved my friend and they have had a very happy marriage, 13 years.. (Second for both).
Talk to you later, Love, Sheila
catgranny last decade
I went to the dr. today to discuss these isues I am having with my bladder and kidneys. I told him my biggest issue was this withdrawl I was going through from Efexor. He is a genuine guy and I trust him. He said I am not his only patient and he wont precribe it anymore. He has given me valum and told me not to take benedryl (it has some bad effect on the bladder) anyway, tonight will be my first night with the valum. I have not tried chaser but I will pick some up. Does it make you groggy? I need something I can take during the day so I can function as a mom.
Sheila my prayers go out to your friend. That is good that they found love and had 13 good years. Sounds like you are just the kind of friend she needs.
Good night to all.
tommorow is a new day!
Sheila my prayers go out to your friend. That is good that they found love and had 13 good years. Sounds like you are just the kind of friend she needs.
Good night to all.
tommorow is a new day!
sadie last decade
Sheila, sorry to hear about your friend. It is good that she will have a friend like you to help her through this rough time.
Sadie, I have taken chaser and it did not make me groggy. I think it is mostly for naseau and headache so I don't think you will have a problem with it. I just can't imagine having to go through all this with effexor and having little ones around to take care of. You may want to be careful with the valium at first also. When did he prescribe you to take that? I have heard it is good when going through effexor withdrawl.
Have a great day
Bonnie
Sadie, I have taken chaser and it did not make me groggy. I think it is mostly for naseau and headache so I don't think you will have a problem with it. I just can't imagine having to go through all this with effexor and having little ones around to take care of. You may want to be careful with the valium at first also. When did he prescribe you to take that? I have heard it is good when going through effexor withdrawl.
Have a great day
Bonnie
BonnieR last decade
Bonnie,
He told me to take it 1 to 2 hrs before bed just to see how it makes me feel. I took it around 9 and didn't go to sleep until 12 so it didn't knock me out, but I did sleep good. I don't know how I will be feeling today yet, it seems to get worse as the days go on. My doc said it is kind of like Minears (sp?) disease and that for some reason valum helps with the dizziness.
I am going to go to the store and buy chaser today because my nauesea and headaches are getting worse.
I took ginger when I was deathly ill with pregnancy and I can't bring myself to take it, brings back to many memories. lol.
Thanks for your reply,
Sadie
He told me to take it 1 to 2 hrs before bed just to see how it makes me feel. I took it around 9 and didn't go to sleep until 12 so it didn't knock me out, but I did sleep good. I don't know how I will be feeling today yet, it seems to get worse as the days go on. My doc said it is kind of like Minears (sp?) disease and that for some reason valum helps with the dizziness.
I am going to go to the store and buy chaser today because my nauesea and headaches are getting worse.
I took ginger when I was deathly ill with pregnancy and I can't bring myself to take it, brings back to many memories. lol.
Thanks for your reply,
Sadie
sadie last decade
It's been a very quiet day today, which I don't mind. The office is slow. And I am happy that I am not being asked to help anyone with anything. I am tired from not sleeping as much as I should (all the emotional and physical exertion of moving). I still wake up wondering where the hell I am. But the change is nice. I have noticed that the only times I get the brain zaps is at work. I never get them at home, or anywhere else but here. I wonder why that is? Maybe it is because when I am not at work I am happier? lol I don't know. It can be irratating though, trying to carry on my day and getting these odd tingles in my head. They are more like tingles now than anything else. But still annoying! So how are you all today?
Have a great weekend everyone.
Hugs and Prayers
xo Elena
Have a great weekend everyone.
Hugs and Prayers
xo Elena
Elena last decade
Hello All. Hope everyone is feeling hale and hearty. I myself am still a tad zappy, which I am a little disappointed in, as I am on day 25. I really thought it would all be over by now.Rats! I also still get the occasional headache, but not nearly as bad as in the beginning, and I have noticed that I feel a little sharper too(thank God)
Elena, are you all unpacked? I know from moving myself, that I hated living amidst boxes. I would drive myself to unpacking to the point of exhaustion. No wonder I hate moving so much!
How is everyone else doing with your withdrawal? My sister in law is going to start weaning off Effexor tomorrow. I told her about all the great advice I got from all of you. She was astounded and also perplexed that her doctor told her nothing of the withdrawal symptoms. She was greatly annoyed that he didn't tell her that E was highly addictive, because if she had known, she would never have taken it to begin with. I'll let you know how she does. I am going to print out some of the entries in this forum(she doesn't have a computer) so she can get support that way too.
Have a great weekend everyone. I am off to London to visit my daughter. Keep well.
Love
Coleen
Elena, are you all unpacked? I know from moving myself, that I hated living amidst boxes. I would drive myself to unpacking to the point of exhaustion. No wonder I hate moving so much!
How is everyone else doing with your withdrawal? My sister in law is going to start weaning off Effexor tomorrow. I told her about all the great advice I got from all of you. She was astounded and also perplexed that her doctor told her nothing of the withdrawal symptoms. She was greatly annoyed that he didn't tell her that E was highly addictive, because if she had known, she would never have taken it to begin with. I'll let you know how she does. I am going to print out some of the entries in this forum(she doesn't have a computer) so she can get support that way too.
Have a great weekend everyone. I am off to London to visit my daughter. Keep well.
Love
Coleen
Coco Montoya last decade
Sheila, I also express my sorrow at the sad news of your friends husban's cancer. She is blessed to have a good friend like you to be at her side during this trying time.Our prayers and thoughts are with you. My brother died of cancer at the age of 58- it's a hard thing to watch someone young and vital die. All you can do is be there- and make sure you take time for yourself to grieve- don't hold it in, okay?
Take care
Love,
Coleen
Take care
Love,
Coleen
Coco Montoya last decade
For the life of me I have not figured out how to go back and forth from the posts to my comments. The only way I can seem to do it is to write my prose in Word. So here goes.
Sadie, the chaser is wonderful. Actually, it is the one medication that I have taken through this withdrawal that has done the most good. I am trying to get my husband on it for other reasons but he resists. They never listen. But that is another story. My experience with Valium is not positive however. But it may have been personal. I had a ruptured appendix in 1986 which required a lengthy hospital stay. I had trouble sleeping so they gave me a valium which was like taking pure alcohol. I felt like I was drunk and I woke up and called the nurse and told her that I was having a major hangover and to bring me lots of water to wash it out of my system. I was okay the next day. It may have been just me, I react to a lot of different drugs.
I want to thank all of you for your support of me with my support of my very dear friend. I had a long conversation with her tonight. Her husband is still with us. His children from his first marriage are all there, grandchildren, nieces and nephews, friends, etc. I am going away on Sunday and I feel like I am deserting her, but she reassures me that she understands, and that I will be there for her after. I expect he will pass while we are away. But I have given her cell phone numbers and my hubbys email address.
Colleen, have a wonderful visit with your daughter in London. England? Actually, I have a cousin who is a professor at the university in London, Ontario.
I am laughing a lot about our self help books. My last two were the one about aspartame and apnea. This trip to the library is a book about self hypnosis and another book about foot additives that cause reactions. This is good. We all need to look insides ourselves and discover what we need. Im sorry, but I did counseling and I felt they just fed back what I wanted to hear and it did not solve anything. I did not do the psychiatrist route, just the social worker stuff, but still. I am not going to basically change, but I will change something.
I had a golf committee meeting yesterday. Our secretary forgot the last meeting and didnt show up. As she was apologizing one of our members said, you had ambrosia. Dont you love that word? Think positively, everyone. That is the way to go. All you young mothers out there who have been put on this evil E for one reason or another, you will get through this. Just try to do the best you can do with those precious babies. If you find yourself stressed out, check with us first before you react with your very special babies. (Even if they are teenagers who are a class in themselves.)
All of us old timers on this site, am I getting maudlin or what. I have so many emotions coming back , yet I am still a very controlled person, but I think I am okay. What do you guys think? Give me an honest answer, I dont need any cheerleading. Again, I apologize for being so long winded.
Love, Sheila
Sadie, the chaser is wonderful. Actually, it is the one medication that I have taken through this withdrawal that has done the most good. I am trying to get my husband on it for other reasons but he resists. They never listen. But that is another story. My experience with Valium is not positive however. But it may have been personal. I had a ruptured appendix in 1986 which required a lengthy hospital stay. I had trouble sleeping so they gave me a valium which was like taking pure alcohol. I felt like I was drunk and I woke up and called the nurse and told her that I was having a major hangover and to bring me lots of water to wash it out of my system. I was okay the next day. It may have been just me, I react to a lot of different drugs.
I want to thank all of you for your support of me with my support of my very dear friend. I had a long conversation with her tonight. Her husband is still with us. His children from his first marriage are all there, grandchildren, nieces and nephews, friends, etc. I am going away on Sunday and I feel like I am deserting her, but she reassures me that she understands, and that I will be there for her after. I expect he will pass while we are away. But I have given her cell phone numbers and my hubbys email address.
Colleen, have a wonderful visit with your daughter in London. England? Actually, I have a cousin who is a professor at the university in London, Ontario.
I am laughing a lot about our self help books. My last two were the one about aspartame and apnea. This trip to the library is a book about self hypnosis and another book about foot additives that cause reactions. This is good. We all need to look insides ourselves and discover what we need. Im sorry, but I did counseling and I felt they just fed back what I wanted to hear and it did not solve anything. I did not do the psychiatrist route, just the social worker stuff, but still. I am not going to basically change, but I will change something.
I had a golf committee meeting yesterday. Our secretary forgot the last meeting and didnt show up. As she was apologizing one of our members said, you had ambrosia. Dont you love that word? Think positively, everyone. That is the way to go. All you young mothers out there who have been put on this evil E for one reason or another, you will get through this. Just try to do the best you can do with those precious babies. If you find yourself stressed out, check with us first before you react with your very special babies. (Even if they are teenagers who are a class in themselves.)
All of us old timers on this site, am I getting maudlin or what. I have so many emotions coming back , yet I am still a very controlled person, but I think I am okay. What do you guys think? Give me an honest answer, I dont need any cheerleading. Again, I apologize for being so long winded.
Love, Sheila
catgranny last decade
Laurel- That's London, Ontario, LOL. She is going to Western University( studying nutrition).She is also working toward her black belt in Karate. She has come a long way; she was bulimic and anorexic as a teenager. I thank God every day that she found her way out of that Hell.
Sheila, hope you enjoy your weekend. I'll be thinking of you.
Love Coleen
Sheila, hope you enjoy your weekend. I'll be thinking of you.
Love Coleen
Coco Montoya last decade
So far so good! I am doing tons better, but not yet myself. I noticed that my zaps are less, but my headaches have increased, but needless to say the past two days have been 50% better.
Coco- sorry to hear that your daughter suffered from eating disorder. I myself can relate. I have not fallen back into the pattern of starving myself, but it is important for family members to realize, like alcholism it is a lifetime strugle. I am 30 turning 31 and obsess over my weight just as much as when I was starving myself, I just no now I cant do that. I did Karatee and loved it and now that we have moved I miss it. That will be good for her to continue! Plus studying nutrition she will always be reminded why starving yourself doesn't work. Good luck this weekend!
Coco- sorry to hear that your daughter suffered from eating disorder. I myself can relate. I have not fallen back into the pattern of starving myself, but it is important for family members to realize, like alcholism it is a lifetime strugle. I am 30 turning 31 and obsess over my weight just as much as when I was starving myself, I just no now I cant do that. I did Karatee and loved it and now that we have moved I miss it. That will be good for her to continue! Plus studying nutrition she will always be reminded why starving yourself doesn't work. Good luck this weekend!
sadie last decade
I'm off to Denver tomorrow and will not be posting until a week from Monday. Just wanted to report on my current state. I have finally adjusted to the 4.5, just zapping a little but not sleeping well (but the ironing is getting done in the middle of the night). Disorientation seems to have abated but I have also been doing a lot of physical stuff that has had me sweating profusely (walking, golf and mowing). Maybe the sweating is the key to going through this easier. Has anyone done sauna during the withdrawal.
Also in my previous post, the book I took out of the library was about food additives, I think I had pedicure on the brain.
Love, Sheila
Also in my previous post, the book I took out of the library was about food additives, I think I had pedicure on the brain.
Love, Sheila
catgranny last decade
Sheila- Hope you had a great time in Denver. Yes, I am sweaty as all get out!I can't do anything without getting dewy!
Had great time with my daughter- however, I left my car keys in a little store in the marketplace! I eventually found them, but I was pretty stressed out. Katie( my daughter) thought it was funny.She says I have been losing my car keys for as long as she has known me!
Sadie, I guess you are right about an eating disorder as being an addiction. My daughter told me she often fights the urge to purge. Howvever, she is so very aware how detrimental it is to her health, and believe me, she is one ultra healthy individual. In fact, she gave me some information that I would like to share with you all.We have been discussing weight gain on this forum; I don't know if any of you adhere to the Atkins Diet. Here is what she told me:
The amino acid Tryptophan converts to seratonin when it crosses the blood-brain barrier(protective barrier surrounding the brain that only allows specific nutrients to pass)
Tryptophan comes from protein. When too much protein( and too little carbs)are consumed, larger amino acids compete with tryptophan to cross the blood -brain barrier, usually leaving it floating in the bloodstream, unused.
If carbs are consumed with protein, the glucose from the carb releases insulin from the pancreas which will shuttle many of the amino acids to various other places in the body , allowing trytophan to cross the blood brain barrier.
So if any of you adhere to a low carb diet, please be aware that it isn't so good for your seratonin levels.
Lastly, Oprah Winfrey had a Dr. Perricone on her program last week, and he talks about super foods that are vital for good health and skin. Check out her web site- His book is called" The Perricone Promise" and it looks really interesting.
Hope you all had a great weekend. I would like to thank you all again for allowing me to participate in this forum; It has helped me tremenously. I feel alive again, and reading all your experiences made me realize that I was not alone.So to all you newbies, take heart. You will be walked through your dark times, and come out okay.
Elena, hoped you're unpacked. Your boyfriend sounds like a real gem.I hope you have lots of fun living together.
Love,
Coleen
Had great time with my daughter- however, I left my car keys in a little store in the marketplace! I eventually found them, but I was pretty stressed out. Katie( my daughter) thought it was funny.She says I have been losing my car keys for as long as she has known me!
Sadie, I guess you are right about an eating disorder as being an addiction. My daughter told me she often fights the urge to purge. Howvever, she is so very aware how detrimental it is to her health, and believe me, she is one ultra healthy individual. In fact, she gave me some information that I would like to share with you all.We have been discussing weight gain on this forum; I don't know if any of you adhere to the Atkins Diet. Here is what she told me:
The amino acid Tryptophan converts to seratonin when it crosses the blood-brain barrier(protective barrier surrounding the brain that only allows specific nutrients to pass)
Tryptophan comes from protein. When too much protein( and too little carbs)are consumed, larger amino acids compete with tryptophan to cross the blood -brain barrier, usually leaving it floating in the bloodstream, unused.
If carbs are consumed with protein, the glucose from the carb releases insulin from the pancreas which will shuttle many of the amino acids to various other places in the body , allowing trytophan to cross the blood brain barrier.
So if any of you adhere to a low carb diet, please be aware that it isn't so good for your seratonin levels.
Lastly, Oprah Winfrey had a Dr. Perricone on her program last week, and he talks about super foods that are vital for good health and skin. Check out her web site- His book is called" The Perricone Promise" and it looks really interesting.
Hope you all had a great weekend. I would like to thank you all again for allowing me to participate in this forum; It has helped me tremenously. I feel alive again, and reading all your experiences made me realize that I was not alone.So to all you newbies, take heart. You will be walked through your dark times, and come out okay.
Elena, hoped you're unpacked. Your boyfriend sounds like a real gem.I hope you have lots of fun living together.
Love,
Coleen
Coco Montoya last decade
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